How have you provided facts? You've given an opinion based on Sess being 28 and a Sunderland player. Are you now suggesting it's a act that a professional footballer can't lace a pair of boots? For the record, I am not a United hater in the least bit, I feel that success is earned.
Well yeah. Look, I'd love to fit Sessegnon into our side if I could, but we're currently playing so much better in a 4-3-3, and unfortunately there's no room for Sessegnon in that. There's room in 4-4-2 yeah, but the overall team doesn't play as well. I'd happily replace Jonas with Sessegnon in the midfield alongside Tiote and Cabaye but I dunno if how good he would be in that role?
You could play it as a 4-3-3, move Sess up top right, and have a band of HBA - Tiote - Cabaye. Even I think that would be awesome, and that's based on 5 of your players. I still maintain that Sess is better playing a bit deeper, gives him space to run with the ball.
I'm not talking about the present. He had 27 goals in 70 appearances for Spurs when you signed him. That's not exactly someone who is worth 30 million, is it? Suarez isn't really relevant considering he was 24 when Liverpool signed him. My point is that you cannot value a player and expect him to go for that price; it's all down to who is selling and buying. Crouch is not worth 10 million, especially not at his age, yet Stoke bought him for that much. Why? Daniel Levy is a tight bastard. Sunderland don't want to sell Sessengon. We don't need to sell him. So if someone came in with 10 million I'd be very, very surprised (and disappointed) if we accepted it. So if you're right (like you're so sure you are) then I don't think Sessengon will be leaving. Which is great news.
Sessegnon would be better behind I think. As you've said, he plays deeper and HBA doesn't have the defensive mindedness. Cabaye --- Tiote --- Sess ---HBA --- Cisse --- Ba-- That probably would kick seven shades of **** out of most teams.
Finally nullifying the mackem slayer is worth the £48mill price tag. Although you might notice the number of own goals rises dramatically
Provided facts? where? You have provided your unwanted opinion, not facts. The only reason Valaencia is worth more than Sess, is cause he plays for a top 4 team. If Sess played for one of the top 4, they wouldnt sell him for less than 30 million. We dont need to sell him, so thats how much we can ask for him, otherwise we wont sell. Rooney is 27 this year, no longer a development player. How much is he worth? Dont give me "He's English and a striker" ****, a good creative AM is worth as much to a team as a striker.
I thought that's how you win an argument around here? Stating opinions as facts and then closing the book. Valencia is a million miles ahead of Sessegnon, he's just superior on every single level. He's a £25m player at best though. Nobody would pay over that for Antonio Valencia apart from the stupid clubs. You have to look at the bigger picture, a team investing £25m on a player of Sessegnon's quality would be mad, or stupidly rich. For this type of money you're talking about Eden Hazard, , Marek Hamsik, Alexis Sanchez, Robben, jeez guys Inter signed Sneijder for 15m Euros. You lot have put a valuation of £20m-£25m on a player who is worth no more than £10m by these players standards, forget Carroll, Henderson, Downing. Just look at the players in that price bracket, you may love the guy to bits, but for that kind of money the big clubs are going to be looking at the next level type players.
All through this thread you have stated your own opinions as facts, which leads me to the conclusion that the only certain fact is that you are a prick.
Now, i don't disagree that £25million is unrealistic, but £10 million is to far the other way. When you consider the facts, as in his goals and assists column, in a lesser side, he is easily a £15million player in my eyes. Bear in mind 2 years on contract, a billionaire owner, and the size of the hole we'd have to fill, then why would we sell for less than £18million. If Sess played for United, Arsenal etc, he'd be looked at as a £30million player, there's no question of that. We are not some ****ty little club that has to just accept what the bigger boys are offering, we are a wealthy, growing and historically proud club. You wouldn't get Hazard, Hamsik, or Sanchez for £25 million, you may get Robben, but if he'd been injury free you'd be doubling that. Inter signed Sneijder for £15million, would they sell him for that? Even after this season when he has been woeful? I'm not naive enough to think we have one of the finest players in world football on our books, but I know enough about football and worldwide players to know we have a genuine match winner, with skill and pace to burn, with a fantastic work ethic. £10 million gets you an Albrighton, a very good player, but not an individual match-winner, like Sess.
He has a point guys. £25-30mill is getting into the realms of buying the best young talent in Europe with HUGE sell-on values even after 5 or 6 years. As I said earlier, I'd say Sessegnon is worth about £15mill, and if a club chose to pay £20mill, I wouldn't call it a bad deal.
Dansafcman Rooney? You sure you don't want to quickly whip that one away before I go into brands, merchandise and stats that favour him over the "untouchable" Van Persie?
I'm not sure why you're comparing Valencia to Sessengon anyway, but to say he's miles ahead of him in every department is just stupid. Like I said you've clearly not seen much of Sessengon. Valencia is a better winger than Sessengon, Sessengon is a better attacking-mid than Valencia. NO ONE HAS VALUED SESSENGON AT 25 MILLION. WE HAVE ONLY SAID THAT'S WHAT WE'D SELL HIM FOR. PLAYERS GO FOR MORE THAN THEIR MARKET VALUE.
