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Areas requiring attention (Barring striker)

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Cb, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Cb

    Cb Active Member

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    Every arsenal fan (at least almost!) believes we need a striker. Other than striker which area do you guys think requires the most attention and who would you realistically want arsenal to purchase. Actually also state which striker you would like (realistically obviously). I dont beliieve reports hes our yet but i would like matias suarez as giroud will initiate a bidding war. Other than that we should buy an attacking midfielder who as rosicky is getting old as is arteta. Not sure who to buy for this position now that gotze has signed a new contract but how about stefan jovetic. I was pretty impressed with him in the cl.
     
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  2. Drudeboy

    Drudeboy Well-Known Member

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    don't think we need an attacking midfielder or anyone except a striker. i truly believe that we would be fighting for the top if we hadn't had a bunch of injuries in the same position simultaneously (full back). if we had 'normal' luck with injuries, we would be up there. that being said, i wouldn't mind having another striker, and podolski looks a done deal.
     
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  3. lazarus20000

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    The only area's i would be concerned with is a suitable backup keeper, is the left back position good enough, is Rosicky good enough to consistently perform and stay injury free next season, and a backup striker (is Pod going to be good enough). We have players but they are young and a few years from their prime. Have we got enough top players/experience to challenge next season? I think we need to bring in some of our ex players as extra coaches. Maybe bring in Keown as a coach to bring more defensive organisation to our back 4 and midfield.
     
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  4. Cb

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    i agree we need a back up keeper though not as much as an attacking midfielder. Recent games show we have lacked creativity and i have absolute faith iin ramsey to come good but can rosicky maintain his form for another year and stay clear of injuries...i dont think so tbh so we do need back up. Wilhere and arteta are now more of central midfielders. Drudeboy our current squad is certainly capable of much more but it does lack depth. I find it hard to believe podolski will be the end of our transfer dealings though i wont compalin im sure there will be outrage from some section of the fans!
     
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  5. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    The thing is, can Rosicky produce the goods for another 2 years? Can we bring in a top experienced AM in his late 20s and not get in the way of Wilshere, OXO and Ramsey? I think our future midfield will be Wilshere, OXO, Song, Frimpong (hopefully) and Ramsey (hopefully).
     
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  6. Cb

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    AOC i dont think will be shifted into midfield until hes around the age of 22 and will remain in the wings for the foreseeable future. Wilshere is more of a box to box whilst song and (imo) coquelin will be defensive midfielders. That leaves ramsey in attacking midfield but he will need support as he will undoubtedly get burnt out.
     
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  7. SpursDisciple

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    And where do you see Arteta playing? With Everton he was quite attacking, but you guys have him quite withdrawn. Is that down to injuries or where you see his best position?
     
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  8. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    He was on the wing quite a lot for Everton too.
     
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  9. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    One of the frustrating things about Arsenal at the moment is that, on the right day, we can beat any team in the world. Our players are capable of winning. However it comes and goes.

    The one flaw I see in Arsenal is that stick us on a crappy small pitch and a poor surface and we are definitely in trouble. I don't know if this means we have to have almost another team to play like Stoke when we need to, or what, but finding a CB to be good vs Spurs at home, and QPR away is going to be a neat trick.

    In my mind the first thing we need is a bit of depth across the whole squad. We need two fit, capable players at every position that we can rotate in and out as required, based on their strengths for the opposition we are facing. We have to stop getting caught up on who is the "Best" player, and start thinking who is the most "Suitable" player for a particular game.

    So to take Gibbs and Santos. There are going to be games where one or other is a better choice for a game.

    At present though, we tend to have only one player available to start for each position. The other is returning from injury or completely off-form.
     
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  10. Bergkamp a Dutch master

    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

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    I actually agree with you - but am really puzzled. You've previously proposed, nay insisted we only buy World-class players.
    So, who are we going to buy to make 2 in every position? Are they available? Will they join us? Can we afford them? Or who will come up from the youngsters to become World-class?
    We deserve to be told. You hold the answers. Pray explain.
     
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  11. Arsegun

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    To my knowledge Podolski can play as a striker. He will play on the left side when RVP is fit.
     
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  12. ToledoTrumpton

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    I've already expained it to you. I talked about us buying only world class players because the person I was discussing the thread with had complained about us buying what they described as useless players. My point was that IF "World class" players were all Wenger was allowed to buy, who were the world class players that were available in the January transfer winndow?

    I have many times said that I hate the dichotomy that exists when judging players. That they are either seen as useless, or as world class, and there is no overlap, no system, no circumstance where they can move from one to the other.

    I am frequently supporting the Ramseys, Djourous and Walcotts of the team and trying to cool people off Oxo when they go too far the other way.

    Does that explain it sufficiently?
     
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  13. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    I didn't expect more.
     
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  14. MrWright!

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    If i had the choice to spend whatever i'd get

    a good fullback who can play both sides as good backup,

    maybe another CB as back-back up

    Then again the young lads miguel, coqulin and the mexican fella looked excellent when they've played so maybe loan them out for rest of this season to a decent team and use them

    midfield is the tricky bit, do you buy a proper defensive midfielder and let song, wilshere, arteta, ramsey, rosicky etc do the attacking, buy someone who can do both and have him and song/arteta etc switch between attacking and defending
    Or buy an attacker, and leave the defensive side as it is/bring in Frimpong
    ofcourse all depends on how the young lad from germany gets on

    I'd probably buy a defensive midfielder and rotate him with frimpong/song and rotate the other 2 positions between wilshere (who will slowly come back in anyway) rosicky arteta, ramsey etc


    and ofcourse a striker


    And sell off, Almunia, Squllaci, djourou, maybe diaby an denilson, chamakh, bendtner, arshavin,
     
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  15. Not really.

    You said we should be buying world class players and we didn't because they were not available. Now you are saying we don't need world class players <yikes>
     
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  16. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Ive explained why I said what I did. Now are you going to continue trolling or are you going to contribute?
     
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  17. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    backing down again?
     
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  18. cjuliennech1

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    Anyone who thinks that we don't need a creative midfielder is clearly deluded, how can we lose fabregas and nasri and not replace them. It makes no sense and despite how well rosicky has done we need to bring in someone that can unlock a defense and its clear this season that we have been lacking creativity especially at home when teams come to defend. Also maybe another centre back and a back up keeper and podolski looks to have signed for us already.
     
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  19. PeterRICK

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    Ooooh, I agree with you 100%. Possibly for the first time ever too!

    Almunia will be out at the end of the year which, imo, is a shame. On his day and with confidence he could be a good player. Sadly he needed to be playing regularly for that to happen which isn't going to be the case with Chezzers. I have no faith in Fabianski and think we'd be better off getting a decent keeper as backup and shipping him out. You'd also make a massive saving in wages too as both Fab and Almunia are on bucket-loads o' cash!

    I don't rate either Santos (yet) or Gibbs and think we can do better in that position. Been extolling Baines for a couple of seasons now so it's no surprise that I'm still banging on about him. I very much doubt we'll buy a LB though.

    Proper DM. I'd love someone who can slot straight into that position... I rate Coquelin a lot but he keeps getting injured and I think he'll need to be gradually introduced. Song seems to be playing more and more as a central/attacking midfielder and forgetting what he was so good at. Personally, and I appreciate this is contentious and easily argued against, I'd like to get someone who is good in that role (DM) and willing to stay in the correct position throughout a whole game. Then, over time, we can build up Coquelin into the first team. Frimpong I like but he's suffered some horrific injuries already. Besides, I think he offers less than Coquelin. Reckon he'd be very useful in certain games (against your Stokes etc) and wouldn't want to lose him.

    CM. Yes. Love Rosicky but he's not getting younger.

    Obviously were we to do this then we'd need a bit of a clearout above and beyond the players that most are calling to leave...

    What I think we'll do this summer - Sign Podolski and nowt else. Which wouldn't be the end of the world.
     
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