Yes, but Liverpool still commands more loyalty in this country than manure. Real soccer supporters don't keep pinning their colours to the winning mast just because they're scared of losing. Yukk.
I dont buy fully into the transfer disaster committee Carroll - £35mill - We will never know who sanctioned such a large fee for him - so far flop Suarez - £23mill - Fantastic signing, despite the obvious problems a quality player, if we were to sell a profit is to be made Downing - £20mill - Has been disapointing, possibly he is playing at his level, but just as probable is he will improve after a difficult first season at a 'big' club. His transfer fee was unfortunately the market value of a player of his ilk, you might say we could have bought Mata for the same but could we? Henderson - £16mill - Maybe this season wasn't the season to buy an up and coming player for a large fee, again players of his ilk have gone for similar fees but if we dont buy these players early we will never acheive a constant heartbeat of a team. Henderson (maybe im going overboard and its a big if) laugh now but could be the future of our team, he could be our Gerrard for the next 10 years. It might not turn out like that but its worth the risk, it's unfortunate but foreign players such as Suarez are not going to be here in 5 years, they move on. I can see what the idea was Adam - £7.5mill - For the price, a good signing as a squad player (which without injuries he would have been) despite people expectations he wasn't bought as the replacement for Alonso or the answer to our problems Enrique - £6mill - Thats a quality signing at that price, Clichy may have been the first choice but I would debate that he would have turned out better Coates - £7mill - A promising player, maybe overpriced but had he gone to a mid table Italian team you can bet he would be priced atleast double that in a season or so Bellamy - Free - A good signing in the circumstances So all in all, Im not sure much more could have been done (without hindsight ofcourse), we needed to pad out the squad that was desperately thin last season. Carroll was a huge mistake and maybe someone should fall on their sword for that decision but take away the fee involved, you would have expected him to do (and give) more than he has. Sure I could list a dozen players who i think could have been better siginings but real football isnt champ manager, different players adjust to different teams in a different manner, not all big name signings work out, not all players out there are available to us, thats life. Should those in charge be held accountable for these decisions, yes. But come on he's hardly been given a chance, we are in no position to start sacking another manager again. Sacking managers does not work
Simple question The king: If the transfers have been ok, why are we playing cr*p and losing football matches? Please do not be afraid to give an honest answer.
King: good contribution, like all Transfers there's risks. So I agree with you. And only a year in there's plenty of time for this lot to improve! And if they don't? Well they haven't stopped making new ones yet!
You have partly answered the question there, the transfers have been ok, not brilliant (but as said the transfer activity was more about filling a squad than it was turning us into title winners). Is that good enough, maybe not, is it a start, I would say so. We have been losing football matches but for the most part of the season I would disagree that we have been playing crap, we have missed that spark infront of goal. Im sure you will point to facts of our chance conversion being one of the worst in the league, thats not easily solved but can be turned around. A team unable to create chances, one with a leaky defence thats much more of a problem. Most teams could say the same but put Van Persie in our team and things would be very different. Has Dalglish been at fault for some of our losses and draws? Yes ofcourse he has, but he is also involved in the possitives that have come under his management and at this point we have to expect some hurdles. You may say we have not improved, I would beg to differ. A simple question for you, what did you expect from the season?
Yes there have been a lot of games where we outplayed the opposition and played very nice football (the pass and move) I don't think we have been crap although there were games where we were very poor,more then anything i think we have been very unlucky this season
It's not just the poor performances in 2012, but also the lingering racism row and KD general handling of the media. Whether or not he is a good coach and man manager, he is awful with the press. At the moment the club is a laughing stock, well and truly off its perch.
Yes the Suarez thing did not help the cause. But you can sort of blame the media for making it linger so long And as for KD with the press every manager puts his foot in with the media i never bother listening to the chat after the match as i get wound up with all the managers drivel
The simple answer to the question is the expectations publicly stated by the owners. That is getting a top 4 place and so a champions league spot for the next season. I like many realise that the challenge for a title was too soon and we have to progress first. Look this season has so far been a disaster which the Carling as a trophy gain cannot paper over. I recognise we are still in the FA cup with a good shout of a second trophy. These are cups and while they are great and we love them, they do not indicate the progress in terms of where we are going. Kenny was the biggest spender after City. YET performed worst than all the other top teams. Yes we can blame bad luck all we can but the reality is that over the length of the season it evens itself out. I also want my manager to treat people with some intelligence. We cannot as fans be taken as granted. Kenny's stance on many things have been bizarre. Let's forget the Suarez incident which IMO he took the wrong decision at every turn. His interviews where he implied people who thought our league performances were a priority had a low IQ. That the Carling which we scraped, against a championship mid table team could even be compared to the premiership. Kenny earns in a few days what many of us earn in a year. Not only is he not delivering for that money he should not take us for fools.
I think Kenny's transfer business has been good ever all. I think his problems been team selection. I think he is influenced by favoritism has maybe been a bit stubborn with using certain players at times. I feel that with out current form, Jordan Henderson is not the best person to play on the right. He is a good hard working player, but doesn't offer any thing if the team struggles. Yet Kuyt is experienced and has performed again and again. Then we have Maxi, who performs well when selected but goes through long periods with out games. But other off form players stay in. Carroll keeps getting dropped after good performances and isnt being allowed any consistency or routine when he really needs it.
For someone who keeps banging on about FACTS so much you would think you would either not put in innaccurate conjectures or check if your statements are true; With Adam P27 W10 D9 L8 Pts Per game 1.44 Without Adam P4 W1 D0 L3 PPG 0.75>>>>>>>>>>>>>so we actually win more than we lose with Adam in the team and infact we lose more without him in the team. With Carrol P16 W8 D3 L5 PPG 1.69 W/out Carrol P15 W4 D5 L6 PPG 1.133>>>>>>>>fair point that we seemingly do better with him in the team, just a shame that when you actually watch the games the contribution ihe makes to the outcome is pretty limited. If you compare him to say Holt of Norwich who has played a similar amount of minutes and who is making a much bigger step-up than Carrol his figures look even worse; Carrol Mins 1598 G3 A1, Holt 1774 G12 A3. With Gerrard P10 W1 D4 L5 PPG 0.7 W/out Gerrard P21 W10 D5 L6 PPG 1.66 With Suarez P24 W8 D7 L9 PPG 1.29 W/out Suarez P7 W3 D2 L2 PPG 1.57 The last two are to highlight how ridiculous the whole argument is really, although the Gerrard stats are alarming! To conclude my findings based on your criteria, we are better with Adam and Carrol in the team in place of Gerrard and Suarez!
