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Congratulations to Max Clark

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Apr 3, 2012.

  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    He's in tonight's England U16's squad to face Japan in the Montaigu Tournament.

    I believe his England U16's record so far is W4 D3 L1.

    I wonder if he'll ever make our first team, there's interest from some top clubs and the new compensation rules will see us get little for him if he goes.
     
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  2. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Well done and enjoy the game Max.

    As for Max Clark leaving ? as tad early for that as it can seriously damage your career. Just ask Chelsea and Man City kids.
     
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  3. Amin Yapusi

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    What new compensation rules? It's not got even easier for the top clubs to sweep up every little ounce of talent and leave them to rot in youth/reserve teams where they never get a chance before leaving in their mid twenties and completely losing out on the chance to develop their potential?

    FFS!! <doh>
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    To get money from the Premier League, the FA(via the clubs) had to agree new compensation rules that put a cap on what compensation was due when a youth player left. It's for players under the age of seventeen, so we need to make sure we hang on to him for at least another year...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15381652
     
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  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Any kid with any brains will stay away from the big clubs until they have been noticed in first team football. The quality and talent that is being wasted at clubs such as Chelsea and Man City is mind blowing. IMO, thats why having Nick Barmby as manager (who has been there and done it) will be key. Too much to soon and all that.
     
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  6. Amin Yapusi

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    Oh ffs that premier league is just getting ridiculous and greedy, this needs to come to an end before any football outside the premier leagues top 6 is ruined forever. Absolute ****ing joke.
     
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  7. andy payton's mullet

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    The kids who have come through the youth set up a Man U haven't done too badly
     
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  8. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    True and Hull City are getting alot from that system as well. Not all top clubs work like Man Utd though.
     
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  9. Amin Yapusi

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    No but they are for teams as fortunate as ourselves who could afford to buy them. What about the other not so fortunate clubs who cant afford such a luxury, who depend on bringing up their own talent, who are all going to start getting it poached by man u, man city, arsenal etc. to sit in their youth reserve teams wasting away while they could be playing first team football, not only developing their own careers but giving those poor clubs a fighting chance.
     
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  10. Micky

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    So the Premier League have bulldozed another ruling through. Is about time the Football League got some balls and stood up to instead of once again crumbling to the Premier League
     
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  11. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    It all comes down to money and who has it. The PL controls the big bucks now. The football league clubs could have rejected that but they didn't. The key now is to keep your top talent until they are 18 years old. This is where the sensible parents will play there part. Sadly and in this day and age many will sell there mothers for cash nevermind there talented sons.
     
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    Looking at Twitter it seems like he's good pals with JayJay Okocha's nephew, who is an Arsenal U16s player.
     
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  13. westhulltiger

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    Amazing what you can find out on the Internet!
     
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  14. andy payton's mullet

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    Whilst I agree that it is unfair for premier league clubs to be able to poach youth players from other clubs whilst paying pittance, I think it's a bit of a sweeping generalisation to say that at premier league clubs they just sit there wasting away. For example Arsenal's academy players play in the league cup every year; Man Utd youths go and play for the clubs they have arrangements with (Antwerp?).

    Granted you don't see anyone coming through the ranks at Man City or Chelsea, but I thought part of AVB's remit was to sort out the academy?

    You can understand kids (and parents for that matter) who, when given the choice of learning their trade at, say, Accrington Stanley where they will play 1st team football, or being coached by the likes of Wenger & Liam Brady, Warren Joyce etc, and learning from better coaches and players, why they would choose to go to the premier league clubs.

    In my opinion it would have been fairer to have kept the tribunal system, and possibly ensure that the selling clubs get a % of any re-sale by the buying club.

    I suspect that this will see the end of a lot of league clubs' academies as they won't be able to afford them which, in turn, will result in a lot of players who could have made it in the game slipping through the net, which can't be right in the long term interests of the English game.
     
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    Over to my husband. " When I was playing schoolboy football in Hull in the fifties, also playing for I think Endike Lane High was a brilliant young talent who subsequently played for Hull City Boys and England Schoolboys. Although Hull City went for him his Dad took up another offer of an apprenticeship for him at Manchester United and the rest is history. His name... Alex Dawson. Very difficult for a parent to turn down an offer like that!"
     
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  16. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Indeed and thats what i mean. But i would also suggest that back then the emphesis was on home grown talent and not Johnny Foreigner like nowadays.

    The quality talent at Man City at the moment has no chance. Same @ Chelsea. I look at players like Wayne Rooney and Adam Johnson who made there names first and then moved onto bigger clubs. That way all parties are winners.
    Under the new system the days of the likes of Ian Rush, Steve Coppell and Stuart Pearson who emerged from smaller clubs will become less and less.
     
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  17. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Having Nick Barmby as manager obviously held no appeal for his own son!!
     
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  18. GLP

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    I'd be giving him a squad number and getting him involved with the first team. Good enough for the u16s good enough for a squad no IMHO
     
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  19. Jaggro

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    In reality though, how many kids would turn down the big clubs when they're shown their pre-contract details for when they turn 17?

    Anyway, I can't see us hanging onto him if he's that good - the squad is full of Premier League youth players, with the exception of only 4.
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    He's already the youngest player in the reserve team, but he's only played a few games there so far, I think he's a bit away from a first team appearance, he's only just turned 16.
     
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