tactics work two ways. 1. The coaches pick a gameplan for each match. 2. Its down to the players to perform well and implement it. If the players dont do their jobs correctly then the tactics WONT work.
It is the job of the manager to ensure the tactics work or the players are implementing it. If the players do not respect the manager they will not play as instructed or maybe they are not good enough to follow their instructions. Any DECENT manager in the world in any industry knows that !! Some people on this board claim to be managers, they must be piss poor spineless managers who couldn't manage a piss up in Ireland if they think tactical errors or staff not obeying them is NOT their responsibility. the very word manager is the biggest clue
Dont be ******ed! hyopethetical situatuion: I'm at work and my manager comes in and says he wants a detailed report on the work I've been doing for a certain client. He gives me a detailed explanantion of exactly what he wants. I start writing and quickley get bored I decide instead I think i'll draw a picture of a hot chick with her tits out riding a camel whilst firing a machine gun. Then I put my picture in an envelope and have the receptionist send it out to the clients. now my boss told me what he wanted... however I did something completely different. Who's fault is that??
I think you missed the point of what Bear was saying HotHead and I think you're mistaking responsibility for accountability. The manager picks a gameplan and tactics for the game and instills that in his players before the game. If you ever watch our bench during a game, you'll notice Pat Rice and Wenger constantly shouting out instructions to the players, especially if they are not following the gameplan that the coaches have set out. Once the players are on the pitch, it is their responsibility to perform to the standards and instructions that have been given to them. If they don't, then the managers tactics won't work. Once on the pitch, the manager is not responsible for their performance, the players are, although ultimately the Manager is accountable overall for what happens on and off the pitch.
It is the manager's fault for hiring an oaf. The oaf would get reprimanded and if the picture of the titties resulted in lost revenue or tarred reputation the manager would get bollocked by their own boss. Even in a serious scenario, if staff are not doing their job, if the manager isn't aware or doing something to fix the problem it is he/she who is in the firing line too. Its one and the same. The players have a responsibility but the manager is responsible for them - he works with them every day. The manager is also accountable.
Whilst I agree with this I also expect a manager to quickly realise the team isn't implementing his tactics. When this happens I expect to see him spazzing out like a lunatic on the sidelines until such time as the team change their ways! A good example was us against Everton when we dicked them for 15 minutes and they stood off us in a very un-Everton fashion. Cut to the sidelines and a very Moyes-esq spaz attack and the team totally changed their approach and should have got an equaliser (haha!). At the very least I expect the team to come out of games like this at half time with a completely different attitude. We know he can do it. I'll never forget the way we came back against Liverpool a few seasons back when Cesc said Arsene chewed them a new one at HT. What worried me then was that he said it was the first time they'd ever seen him doing it. They're grown men, they also get paid a small fortune for doing something I'd do for free (**** it - I have to pay to play football!), if they're not doing what you tell them to do then by god let them know about it!
100% correct. If the tactics aren't working then you have to alter your gameplay. Not dong so results in poor results. Sometimes you have to adapt to make things work..... In the workplace, different approaches work for different people and a manager has to adapt to make the team work. What is an acceptable way of interaction for one person may not be ok for another.
Exactly. In all things there is a carrot and the stick, the players must know there will be a consequence for bad performances or not doing as instructed. Competition for places would be a good start, if you don't want to do what you are told, there are 2 others waiting to take your place.
Of course, i agree with most of this. My original point being the players underperformed in our last mtach. I dont think the problem lies in the way the team was set up. Ramsey did'nt work on the wing but the team was easily strong enough to beat that QPR side. The team were lackluster and I think the players need to own up and take some responsibility.
Isn't it the responsibility of the manager to ensure the players are suitably motivated? I just don't understand why our players would not give 100% after having a poor season and securing a top 4 place is the only thing left. Very poor attitude if this is the case.
A lot of young players seem fine for the first few years then it effects them later in their careers. See Owen. Say what you want about him, but he was brilliant and becasue of they way he was played constantly, he ended up ****ed later.
I think it is a player's mindset and I will point you all to the thread about Gary Neville. Its mental, switching off in games, not having that desire/hunger to win or - the will to win, determination to not be beaten. Very few of our players in my opinion have that toughness, the keeper apart, he is the only person I ever see screaming on the pitch, where is that drive and desire from any other player, RVP included ?? This is why we are weak, we don't have mental toughness, we have no on-field leaders either. The players need to be fired up to show that extra bit of determination, growl it out, do that bit extra. It rubs off on those around you, when you see someone putting in that bit extra on a football pitch, you feel bad if you don't yourself, before you know it everyone is doing more.
Yes I agree with you. The team would benefit from a couple more 'fighters'. Wenger used to sign them but has got too obsessed with technical ability. Which is incedently one of the reasons I hope we sign Podolski. Not only does he score goals but he's one of those players that chases down every ball, puts his foot in and just hates to lose.(he will get in trouble from time to time though but then so did Patrick Vieira, Iain Wright and Martin Keown)
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