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Carlos vela: Deserves another chance?

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Cb, Apr 3, 2012.

  1. Cb

    Cb Active Member

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    He has performed admirably for Real sociedad bagging 7 goals and 8 assists in 26 games. I know people say he does'nt fit into our system and a delegation from the spanish club have arrived to negotiate a deal for him according to sky sports but i was just thinking if we'll regret letting him go for a price much lower than his actual ability. I know people say he's not physical enough to play as a striker but should we shuffle about our system a bit i think we should be able to find a place for him maybe with him playing off rvp considering we dont really have much depth in attacking midfield. I would much rather prefer him to bendtner who is too arrogant for my liking and should really be better than chamakh. Oh and the price being talked about for vela is about £4mil-£5mil.
     
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  2. lazarus20000

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    To be honest no. He had enough chances when he was at the club and we now have Pod coming and already have Walcott, Gervinho, Miyaichi, Campbell, OXO and Wilshere who can also play wide if necessary. Unless it's a top quality player, i can't see why we would need him as he's not better than anything we already have. I'm excited about the Pod, Miyachi and Campbell playing for us next season. I've seen Miyachi and he seems to have that x-factor....
     
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  3. Cb

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    i see your point we are pretty congested there though i would disagree on campbell. He needs another year on loan and has'nt played in the last ten games and his link up play and decision making needs a lot of work. I would much rather see afobe being given a shot as though they're about even as far as potential is concerned i feel afobe currently has more to offer. Agree 100% on miyaichi hes doing very well considering hes never had any formal training hes only going to improve.
     
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    I agree, i think it's time to promote one of our youth attacking players. I haven't seen much of Afobe but he was touted as being a player that might break through a little while back. I would love to see one of our home grown players come through. He also seems like a good lad. At the end of the day, if they don't get a chance how will they prove themselves?
     
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  5. Cb

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    heres a video of him though it gets good from 2min45sec onwards. Prior to it you see him missing loads of chances but this was taken one and ahalf years ago hes improved consderably since then and ive seen him play quite a few times for huddersfield hes a typical striker though he can still be a bit more clinical.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FonNP2g8yt8
     
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    He looks good in those clips and seems to have good skill, pace and power. I would put him on loan again but this time to a premiership team and see how he features. Also see how well he performs for our Carling cup team. I really hope he makes it as he's a local East London boy.
     
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    He is always going to score goals in the spanish league. Its where he belongs.

    In England not soo much. Vela lacks the physicality for the game over here. He's a quality finisher no doubt but with the arrival of Podolski and Joel Campbell his chances will be even more limited should he decide to come back.
     
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    He had plenty of chances to be honest. Compared to Park for example he had the opportunity multiple times through multiple seasons to prove his worth, and he didn't.
     
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    True , more than enough chances in fact. (62 apps)

    We already gave Nicholas Bendtner too many and it cost us on numerous occassions.
     
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    Hmm I don't agree on Bendtner. I said this in some other thread, but Walcott got way more opportunities than Bendtner. But Wenger didn't have any stakes on Bendtner while with Walcott he was hyped so much by AW, that he was almost obliged to persevere with him.

    I remember when Walcott and Bendtner started out in the first team. Theo got all the hype as always but Bendtner made great appearances on the CC and was always a dangerous sub for us.


    You have to try really hard to find any rational reason why we've given Walcott so many chances. It was more a matter of pride for Wenger I think. I personally don't think it was worth it, but I know most here do. (1 decent performance in every 6-7 games is good enough for someone who's been around for 6 years apparently)
     
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  12. Arsegun

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    no, had plenty already
     
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    Rational reason = Speed
     
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    Supporters like Vela because he does those cute little chips over the keeper and has a cool name, that's about it. All round he's not a very good player, and furthermore, he tries those chips when the better option would be a cool low finish, often resulting in missed opportunities.

    Comparing him to Walcott is ridiculous. Walcott showed far more potential when he was bought and far more potential during his career. Walcott scored a hatrick for England 4 years ago, and has shown brilliance for us against Barcelona and other top teams. His problem is consistency, not ability. Inconsistency in youngsters is about a lack of maturity, so we just have to let him develop a couple more years to get the most out of him. Vela needs so much more than that.
     
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  15. Cb

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    true criticism of walcott has been intensified so much recently hes gone from being a massively hyped up over rated teenager to someone whos massively under rated albeit inconsistent which goes with his age. I actually think we havent seen the walcott wenger sees so regularly in training hence the faith. At home to newcastle he showed precisely what hes capable of doing on a (hopefully) regular basis in the near future.
     
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    He wasn't bad versus Spurs either <wah>
     
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    Exactly this - he is not suited to the speed and power of English football
     
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  18. TheBear

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    Disagree. Walcott produced on a number of big occassions for us(against Chelsea, Barca, Milan, Liverpool, Man United) and is now doing so fairly regularly.

    Bendter on the other hand was brought on to make an impact on soo many occassions only to let us down. He cant even nail down a starting place at Sunderland.

    I dont get your logic.

    Walcott has now got 10 goals and 13 assists this Season. He's already one of the best WF's in the league! He's currently outperforming Lennon, Valencia, Young, Johnson, SWP, Malouda, Kuyt, Nzogbia, Kalou etc..
     
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  19. Topgun

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    I remember when Bendtner came off the bench to score a great winning headed goal against Spurs, he still gets allot of credit with me for that one!
     
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  20. TheOXOCube:5pur2

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    Don't forget the winner vs Wolves
    I literally praises him for weeks after that one
    Tbh I think we should sell Vela
    5 million should suffice
     
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