There is difference between playing in the role he was expected to play and the one he did before he got injured. You are expected to be more creative and you do things you should not. Fabregas was world class at it. To put Ramsey in that role was not wise. Having Wilshere out only added to our problems. Even Diaby does that old Fabregas role better. Ramsey is a CM.
He has played CM many times this season and has been poor though. Do you think he warrants a place then?
Who was not poor today? Today's game is not the game to be looking to blame Ramsey for. He played in a role that I do not think he has ever done before and the whole team was poor.
Yes but he has been poor all season! We upped our game and played faster when he was out and we started winning. Ramsey is too slow in every respect.
On current form, he clearly does not. But Wenger clearly wanted more midfielders today and for some reason decided to stick Ramsey out wide. Rosicky has played out wide before and Ramsey in the middle. They did it at Everton. Why those roles changed I have no idea.
He is 20 years old and has had his problems on and off the pitch this season. First full season after the leg break so it's hardly a shock. Diaby and Wilshere being out has simply meant Ramsey had taken too much responsibility. He was clearly not ready for it.
What happened to Benayoun? Not sure if he was injured, but he was good against Spurs. Would have been a better choice. As it was the system today was weird. It was set up as a 4-3-3 but Ramsey drifted in and made it more like a 4-4-2. We just didn't look right from the first minute. I just can't fathom why Wenger seems to think it is ok to play central players wide - he's done it with Nasri, Diaby, Rosicky, Arshavin, and now Ramsey!
Against England at Wembley for Wales was an outstanding Ramsey performance aswell. He can be very good in the right system.
Ramsey has not been poor this season and the accusations that he doesn't work hard are predictably wide of the mark. He's been a stalwart in the centre of midfield. What Ramsey has been in reality this season is a player who has been asked to carry the weight of the midfield - in the absence not only of Diaby and Wilshere, but also Fabregas and Nasri. It's been a massive ask, and one that was always going to be a difficult role. For a 21 year old returning from injury, he's put in a worthy shift. He's suffered from fatigue and loss of form, but that's not entirely surprising and is no justification to slate him in my opinion. He's a quality player who has got a long Arsenal career ahead of him. The fact that he's being singled out for criticism today when he did **** all wrong is lazy scapegoating. Wenger made the mistake in his selection today, Benayoun, Rosicky, Oxo or Gervinho on the left would have been a much better option - and the whole team were below par, but it was not the fault of Aaron Ramsey
We gave rosicky a chance when he was plagued with injuries, we gave rvp a chance when he was injury prone at the age of 26 so why not give ramsey a chance who is just 20yrs old shown outstanding quality prior to his horrific injury and rejected manu in order to play for us. He needs our support rather than criticism.
Can't disagree with that. It was a mistake to play him on the left yesterday. I think Ramsey should be coming on as a sub at the moment when we need to hold the ball and swamp the midfield. I don't think his form currently warrants a starting place, but I do think he's a player who is going to be a big star at Arsenal in the future.
look at the beginning of the season ramsey was our only viable option at attacking midfield and as PISKIE said thats a tremendous burden to carry for one so young but he has had several good games as well (chelsea away comes to mind). He is currently off form and being played out of position but to even think of selling him would be dumb and short sited. As i've said before it may be some while prior to him regaining his pre-injury form so we ought be patient an careful with him. I'm not saying play him every game but ease him back into it.
i'm not saying what wenger did was right but he will have to be played in his favored midfield position some time or another as rosicky cant possibly go on for the remainder of the season.
The excuses are really beyond belief - even when a player has had a clearly very poor season, we get excuse after excuse. Some people just cannot accept what they see right in front of their faces.
hmmm....it seems theres a big rift among our supporters with regards to ramsey and neither side appears to be willing to change their opinion so i think we ought to just accept this and wait and see how things pan out...
Unfortunately we HAVE to just wait to see because it seems Wenger will keep playing him regardless of whether or not it damages our chances of winning. I am half expecting to see him at full back at some point - just so he can get a game.
well even if its because you have to atleast we agree on something though i still say it'll be stupid to forecast a premature end to ramsey's top flight playing career. I think hes an outstanding talent and arsenal are unlike some other clubs a club willing to give its players a chance rather than a club who mercilessly casts them aside on the faintest hint of slacking. Thats after all one reason that makes our club attractive to so many and i believe in the long run itll pay off.
