How devious can a government be,........they start a national fuel crisis to hide....... the tax increase on a pilgrims staple diet.........the PASTY.......what level will Cameron sink to next........just to get Argyle relegated........will it be WW3 next if this ploy fails......what will these millionaires try if that fails.........Barcelona turning up as Bradford. Just because we have the best, current form, defence in the Division David Cameron is running scared.......and as for that prat Boris........enough said.
Yes hooray for the tanker drivers union holding the public to ransom to protect their feather bedded terms & conditions! Three cheers for firemen concerned about health & safety when it suits them and withdrawing their labour when it doesn't! I'm right behind the tube drivers striking during the Olympics! Who fancies a baggage handlers strike during the summer holidays?
Well you were close on your prediction Distant, looks like the handlers will be disrupting another public holiday. They start on thursday next week. I wish they would realise that all they do is make misery for the travelling public. The owners of the airlines fly about in private jets so why would they care if people are stuck at airports. I also do not agree with this "bullying and selfish" union approach. If you are not happy in your job, leave and go elsewhere.
I didn't know that Hobo. There are 2 explanations. Either I'm psychic or the ******** are on strike over every holiday period.
I know unions can cause trouble at times...........but good grief only a Tory Government can cause so much trouble........when a strike is not even been called........they get the whole country panicking about petrol........and tell people to hoard it away in jerry cans.....totally disgusting attitude and undefendable......AND THEN TAXING PASTIES SO THE COMMON MAN CANNOT ENJOY IS HALF-TIME NIBBLE.........what the hell does Cameron know about pasties........they don't eat such things in the Cabinet's Millionaire meetings.
plymborn and notdistant. Before we have a war of the political parties, none of the politicians eat pasties. Not one, not Tory, Labour or Lib Dem. Unions have their place so that the bosses don't or can't go back to the dark ages when we all doffed our caps to the local Lord. Problem with bosses and unions is they can never draw a happy medium between them. One has to be the master which kind of loses things somewhere in the middle.
You have to admit that the government made a huge cock-up causing chaos at the petrol stations but the great British public are equally to blame for not using common sense. Me? I decided I wasn't about to play that particular game and was/am not about to visit any petrol station until the gauge is hovering just over the red. If I could then not get petrol then so be it, I will walk to work and not worry about using the car. Seriously people are their own worse enemies!
I don't drive and have never learned so fingers up to the petrol situation. I have never had a problem getting around and if I'm desperate to go somewhere out of the way I have family who will take me. I have never used them as a taxi service and only ever ask if desperate. I always pay for the petrol in those cases and a bit extra whether they want me to or not.
I agree Mrs Lala, i need the fuel to get about and always keep the vans full. But one of the vans tried today and wasted over an hour. Government are a joke at what they are doing. Now when the figures come out next week they will say we have turned a corner and the economy has got better. What a plan. As for the Pasties send them a Ginsters. They should tax them as they are dangerous . Fook the Government
You can blame many for this ridiculous fuel problem but their is no folk as dumb as the good old British public. Something that I am a very strong believer of on our big brother island is that the Brits believe whatever any media source chucks at it. Add to that many have just proven what a selfish, lazy bunch we can be. Now before anyone starts giving me a sob story about getting to work and the amount of mileage they have to do. I have been there done that and through the previous fuel crisis. What about people with disabilities who need their mobility, yes I have had very close experiences of that as well. So yes, I filled up this week but because I had too. My tank was near on empty. I had no such problems in getting fuel and no such problems with joining queues. Why you may ask, because I used a bit of common sense and turned off the auto pilot switch. People in this country can no longer use common sense with a majority having lost all sense of proportion, believing and hanging on every word from our tv screens or tabloids and being unable to think for themselves any longer. Ok, what if I had not been able to fill up you may ask, well I'm fortunate enough to have my two legs, that would allow me to walk at the very least several miles. Anything more I have options of learning to ride a bike again, first time since my childhood, so probably applying yellow jacket, safety shoes, knee pads, gloves, protective clothing, oh and I forgot the helmet (I might need it after this)...ok enough of the sarcasm. The other option being our shabby public transport system. Still the government got its immediate tax windfall, if you ever wanted to print money quick they have proved how easy it is with people who have sheep brains. Instead of media interviews telling us to fill up, maybe the advice would have been better to tell people to leave their cars at home. Try it sometimes, I have and your life can be better for it. Still at least everyone is topped up now in readiness for their forthcoming bank holiday but you know the funniest bit of all? There is to be no fuel strike over Easter See you all again in over eight days time
You had to laugh at that clowns advice though fill, up your garage with highly combustible liquid What words of wisdom next I wonder fill the bath, any empty pots and pans ohh and for good measure soak your clothes in it in case of emergency..... and these genii lead the sheeple!!! Sensible perhaps you could use as an alternative softener for that leather underwear... In the words of the great Jerry Lee Lewis... Goodness, gracious great balls of fire
I feel sorry for the minister (god I feel dirty saying that) who is being urged to resign over his comments telling people to fill up Jerry cans and to buy as much as possible. These comments apparently led to some moron pouring petrol out of a Jerry can into a glass jar near food cooking on a gas hob...40% burns and he is to blame??? Francis Laudes I think is his name. The good news is that we have got a huge last minute boost to the economy to make Cameron and his cronies look good...Well done everyone!!!
Personally I doubt the minister's comments had much effect - people panic when there's any hint of the tanker drivers striking. The fault lies with the tanker drivers, who've managed to spin a web of restrictive practices around themselves, not the Government. A drivers' representative was interviewed at length about the strike yesterday and he as much as admitted that the issue was that as & when delivery contracts came up for renewal, producers were able to bring in new hauliers - using properly qualified drivers as is required under the regulations mind you - rather than reappointing the existing contractors. Despite the requirement for the right qualifications & safety procedures, the drivers somehow deem this a risk to the public. I sounds like a free market to me...... On the so called pasty tax, it IS a nonsense when fish & chips bear VAT but a hot pasty doesn't. This is just one in a long line of food related VAT boundary changes - there was I seem to remember a long running battle as to whether a Jaffa cake was in fact a cake [which doesn't bear VAT] or a biscuit [which does]. I know it's a blow for pasty makers but is that a justification for allowing the nonsense of fish & chip taxation versus the pasty to continue? Nobody likes taxation but they all like the Government to spend money. I'm afraid you can't have one without the other. What is unedifying is politicians throwing themselves in front of the TV camera eating pasties and bleating on about their holidays in Rock. Why don't they just man-up and stick to the line that it's eliminating an historic anomaly? PS If the Government does have a reason for making a fuss about a strike, it's not a short-term taxation boost, which will only reverse as sales reduce in the coming weeks, it's to embarrass Labour over their reliance on the unions for funding. Will Milliband Minor clearly condemn any strike? I bet he won't.
Being retired means that petrol is not really a problem for Mrs Plymborn and myself (although we depend more on the car at the present moment because of her hip-op) .........we have excellent public buses nearby.......plus the freedom pass. What does concern me is my son needing diesel for his greetings card franchise so he can visit his outlets, no fuel means no van on the road. The other thing is my lawnmower (not brand new like sensible's,but that's another story,heh heh heh) I will soon need some petrol for it,dare I turn up on a petrol forecourt with my plastic container looking all casual like,will anyone believe me that it's just to cut the grass.......I doubt it though true......and I'm bound to look all guilty which is ridicules.
The pasty tax is about kicking the **** out of an empoverished area like Cornwall and is not exactly neccessary is it. There speaks a person in the boardroom vacinity notdidstant who probably doesn't eat them. It is quite clear from firstly your background and secondly your employment where you stand politically. The same feck you jack I'm alright attitude that comes from the I'm well paid fraternity. As for Tanker Drivers. I for one expect somebody who is driving around with and off loading a potential bomb in my neighbourhood to be properly trained to do the job and not some fly by night outfit to do the job. Could not care less who does the job as long as they are highly trained to do it.
Personally I don't think there should be ANY tax on ANY food - it is a basic human necessity AND takeaway foods are GENERALLY eaten by the working class, the well off can afford to eat out - they can pay tax if they feel the need!
Plym , push the mower to the garage to fill up. Are the government going to tax pies? Its all going a bit far. Wonder what will happen next.
Sensible you ought to have to get a licence for that brain, never mind a car. It's dangerous. It has **** all to do with Cornwall or anything else, it has nothing to do with who eats pasties and who eats fois gras for breakfast. It's just one more in a long line of identical changes to iron out obvious inconsistencies in the treatment of food in the tax system, which this time got into the tabloid press. I don't make this stuff up: http://www.vatcalculator.com/news/the-curious-case-of-the-jaffa-cake http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8060204.stm http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/06/what-you-do--and-dont--pay-vat-on-217890/ If you have any interest in the actual facts as opposed to the rubbish you read in the tabloids, you'll see from the last item, there was a VAT distinction between hold & cold take-away food as long ago as 2010 [and in fact well before that]. So contrary to how it's being portrayed, this ISN'T a change in the rules to victimise the pasty eating poor, it's merely saying that as pasties are invariably sold hot, they should have been subject to VAT all along. The only difference is that a bandwagon has been got together on this one whereas when the Jaffa Cakes and Pringles cases were on, there were clearly more important things happening, like instability in the Middle East, rogue nuclear states about to test launch missiles across their neighbours' territory and terrorists out killing innocent women & children. Oh hang on, we have all that now, but obviously what we SHOULD be getting worked up into a lather about is that pasty sellers have been pocketing the VAT on their sales that according to the rules, they should have been handing over to pay for hospitals, schools and the like. And I'll have you know I not only eat pasties, I can and do make them too, although I will admit they wouldn't always pass the "survive being dropped down a mineshaft" test.
Actually joe there's a picture in my Sunday Newspaper of a chap actually doing that.......standing at the pump topping up his mower.
If pasty sellers have been pocketing the VAT.....that means that pasty prices will stay the same and the seller has to pay VAT on the present price........so what is all this talk about the price going up by 20% then ? PS.......let us know when you've got your licence for your brain.....sensible........heh...heh...heh.
