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Wenger: I want to secure deals quickly

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Arsenal87, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-i-want-to-secure-new-deals-quickly

    Hopefully he does so...I was also thinking about RVP's situation, the reasoning from all parties has been to put the talks until summer to concentrate on the football, but having said that, RVP will also be off to the Euro's this summer so that too might delay contract talks even further until all the way of mid-end july (remember RVP then goes on holiday after the Euro's). Hopefully we get a big surprise and contract talks go very well and quick and RVP signs before he goes off to the Euro's. The way I see it is that RVP does want to stay at Arsenal, and is simply waiting till the season ends to see where we stand until he makes the decision, which makes ending in the top 4, even top 3 all the more important, if he sees that, as well as real ambition to bring in re-enforcements that might be enough to keep hold of him. No one can really blame him for that, he is playing at his peak, has big ambitions, and so he wants to see if the club can match his ambitions, if we can do so, he will stay as he really does love the club.
     
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  2. Sign Da Ting

    Sign Da Ting Well-Known Member

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    Actions, Louder, Words, etc.
     
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  3. Good that he is learning from his mistakes. We need to make sure we have a settled and ready squad from day 1 next year. I just hope he applies the same logic to any new signings.
     
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  4. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    well he's lned up Poodles - so we might sign him on the last day of the next January window.
     
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  5. Truman82

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    Wenger will give a lot of money and bring really great players this summer <badger>, as ever :)
     
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  6. theHotHead

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    No but if you think back to the summer transfer window, deals take time, lots of time, lots and lots and lots of time and it is NOT Arsenal's fault it is someone else's fault <laugh>

    It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic <doh>
     
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  7. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    This makes absolutely no sense. Slow down, think about what you are trying to say and articulate your point. This Podolski deal has been in the pipeline for about 6 weeks already and it still isn't done. It is taking a frig of a long time.
     
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  8. Kyle?

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    There are probably a few factors involved.

    A)The season is still going
    B)Our heroicly terrible negotiating team have managed to mess up.
     
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  9. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Or perhaps negotiating transfers takes a long time and requires the player and the selling club to agree on the timing?
     
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  10. Cb

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    i know lots of people are going to slag me off for this but although i did not blame cesc when he left i will blame rvp. This is because cesc would have been class whether or not we went in for him and in addition gave us something like 4 great seasons. Rvp on the other hand was known to be something of a trouble maker at feynoord and had serious attitude problems. You must also keep in mind he spent something like 6 years on the treatment table whilst we continued paying his wages and now that hes been admittedly great for one and a half season the concept of ambition for stars props up.
     
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    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    To be fair to him, RVP has never really even hinted he will leave. I am a fairly big supporter of the club and the way they run things, but I will find it difficult to believe them if they say they couldn't make a deal with him to stay.
     
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    Rvp is one of my favorite arsenal players even before he had his remarkable scoring streak and i believe he wants to stay too. However if he does not, which is something we cant rule out just yet unfortunately i'll actually blame rvp rather than the club afterall why wouldnt the club want him to stay?
     
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  13. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly...
     
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  14. I think the Arteta deal took a few hours from start to finish.

    Not sure how Utd managed to get all their business done early.

    This 'it takes time' nonsense was just another excuse. Arsenal completed screwed up the summer transfer window and had to panic on the last day to try and recover the awful mess.

    What we now hope is that they have learned from this mistake, and that Wenger does indeed do what he says he is going to do.

    In terms of the contracts for existing players - I would give them 2 weeks from the end of the season. No signature by then and they are sold. Then concentrate on getting new players in through the last 2-3 weeks of June and first couple of weeks of July, in time for the pre season tour.

    Lets just not wait till we have already played 5 games before bringing new players in!
     
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    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Did this happen to us during our early Wenger years or is this a recent phenomenon when we built the Emirates Stadium? We clearly bought higher profile players in the past, maybe it's become more difficult nowaday?
     
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  16. Its not just about buying high profile players. We seem to leave it too late generally, but it sounds as though Wenger has recognised that this is an error.

    It does seem to be a more recent thing - players like Henry, Pires, Bergkamp, Petit, Overmars, etc were all in place at the start of the season, some as early as June. Waiting till midnight on August 31st - with the season already well underway is just plain stupid.
     
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  17. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    It takes a long time if you bid £1m - answer NO!. Then 1 week later you bid £2m - answer NO!. Then 1 week later you bid £3m - answer NO!.
    Then 1 week later you bid £4m - answer NO!. Then 1 week later you bid £5m - answer NO!. Then 1 week later you bid £10m - answer YES!.
    Then you offer the player £20k per week - answer NO!. Then 2 days later you offer the player £30k per week - answer NO!. Then 2 days later you offer the player £40k per week - answer NO!. Then 2 days later you offer the player £50k per week - answer NO!. Then 2 days later you offer the player £60k per week - answer YES!. Then the player travels to a medical, you send the paperwork to the FA.

    This the WENGER way.
     
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  18. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    That's pretty much the problem, i hope with Wenger's new pledge, we will now get our business done well in advance and have these new players playing in pre-season. On a side note, that list of players are terrific, when was the last time we bought anyone near that class? Arshavin?
     
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  19. Arshavin? No, not in that class (probably is talent wise with some of them, but not overall as a player).

    It's a long long time since we bought a really top player - because Wenger switched to the youth development approach. When he came to Arsenal he started that work so it took time for some of the players to come through, and when they did he kept with that approach. Because he went too far with it (along with some other errors), we stopped winning.

    It's benefited our bank balance though - and we don't know if he was forced into this approach financially due to the stadium.

    I do believe we need to get back to bringing in at least one top world class player each year. When this happens it gives the whole club a boost. I remember when Bergkamp was signed - the players and fans were in awe - we couldn't believe it at first. It changed the club overnight and every other player in the squad seemed to up their games. We were seen as being serious about winning.

    In my view that moment was the start of the revolution at Arsenal - Wenger was just the next step, but not the start.
     
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  20. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, he has left it a little late but hopefully we should bring in a few now. This is what the whole project was all about, developing youth, increased money from stadium/global merchandising and then being able to bring in a few top players into the squad. Everything apart from the top players part has been promised, lets hope this happens next season....
     
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