[video]http://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-the-payments-that-may-lead-to-rangers-downfall[/video] i am not sure why this tomo is wasting his time, obviously all the scottish journos have been all over this for the last couple of years... what a **** the guy with the pipe is
Baxendale Walker has just said exactly what RTC has been saying all along and The Bain documents are pretty damning.
Bain wrote to chairman John McClelland to get his pay rise ratified through the scheme "as I do with players". Martin Bain, former Director on the board of the SPL. John McClelland former Director on the board of the SPL. Add Campbell Ogilvie current President of the SFA to this mix and there is no longer any doubt whatsoever that Scottish football has been corrupted by one club. All doubt over cheating has now been removed.
Pretty damning stuff. Time for rangers to hand back the titles won with unregistered players ; the last little drop of dignity they may be able to scrape together.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17570333 very slippery answer from de boer when asked about payments from rangers
"Real Madrid have many millions of debt, and can you think if they were to be stripped of those Champions Leagues? No, of course not," said De Boer. wtf has that got to go with anything?
I would have thought so, he knows that he will personally be in the eye of the upcoming storm when the recriminatons begin in earnest, I suspect this is an attempt to throw a cloak of honour around his shoulders.
Utter nonsense isn't it? £50m worth of potential tax paid through EBTs between 2000 and 2010 being chased by HMRC yet every player interviewed say they know nothing about it. Either they're lying or SDM, Bain, Ogilvie et al are in even deeper **** than they already are.
Or he couldn't have won the case anyway on the basis that he is dirty low down crook. The pot calling the kettle black, but judging the case on its merits, Whytey could quite easily say that "I I I I I I I I I I could not trust his his his his fiscal policies as I I I I I I I could not be sure of their legality"......or some such ****.
There is a piece on Bain here: http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.c...-rangers-settlement-agreed-all-friends-again/
Just thinking out loud off the back of that. The contract for which Bain arrested the funds was from 09. Rangers were continuing to use ebt's in 09. We know that Bain had one and we know that he insisted that his improved contract went through the ebt as discretionary payments. His claim was for "£1,308,853.50 in respect of future entitlements". I wonder whether some or all of these "future entitlements" were actually future "discretionary" payments that he had been getting as a matter of course. The penny dropped and that is why the claim died a death. It is just a theory and I'll mentally compartmentalise it from what we actually know to be true....but I bet there is something to it......Or maybe not after they stopped using them.......But it is a nice theory
Could be the case, it will all come out in the wash though and they can't shred the court papers, i'm sure someone will want a look at them.
I added a bit at the end. If they stopped using the ebt's, then maybe not but if they looked at past "earnings" to calculate the figure, then there is a possibility there is something to it..... It is not a crackpot theory.... but I'll not hang my hat on it.
Huns have their say. Some good points and some stupid ones too. alex thomson ‏ @alextomo Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Tomoblog: RFC fans on #c4news Friday exclusive They, after all, turn up week in, week out. They stump up for the season ticket, season in, season out. As many in Glasgow seek to blame everything from global warming to childhood cancer on Craig Whyte – as well as Rangers’ woes – I’m keen to hear the true extent of the mismanagement years before Craig Whyte ever rolled up promising help to a club bought for millions and sold to him for a quid. First – a word from a lawyer. Not ours, but Adam, lifelong Bear and worth quoting at length I think: “Rangers cheated the system for years and the Scottish media is scared of the club. Still. If we are found guilty and a deal is done with the taxman it will be embarrassing. Please keep up the good work. It’s great that the UK as a whole is seeing what a shambles we have become. Life is more than football and Rangers should be as liable as us all for keeping to the law and paying tax.” Which seems as good a summary as I’ve yet seen. Celtic fans – not all Bears are burying their heads and running away. Nonetheless, some were upset at what they see as unfairly dragging the name of a club legend into all this. Here’s Ross: “…the part of the report which really did infuriate the vast majority of Rangers supporters was the insinuation that John Greig would have had any sort of awareness that this scheme was potentially illegal. He is a great servant of Rangers and you sought to blight his name, which I, amongst many others, believe is totally and utterly unacceptable.” Many, like Scott, point to systemic corporate failure rather than individual culpability and although the scapegoat-hunters won’t be satisfied, my hunch is that this is near to the reality of events under Sir David Murray’s regime at the club: “Your piece – and more to follow no doubt – just confirms to me the systematic failings of the RFC management pre-Craig Whyte. Executives more interested in their personal wealth accumulation and boards of Directors who are either ineffectual (Ogilivie) or just football people (Greig) who lack the expertise to challenge and balance decisions made by Executives (your blogs also on the Murray regime paint very well a picture of a culture where the Executives are trusted because they are feared or assumed to be doing the right thing – after all every Director probably laboured under the delusion that every executive decision is made in the best interests of the football club and when they gain financially who is going to question what is going on?).” Hope of course, is what football support is all about. And Iain’s big quandary is all about hope – the hope that Rangers will win the so-called Big Tax Case: “A big question I would love the answer to and would love someone to ask is: if Rangers got found not guilty in respect to the EBTs would Rangers be entitled to chase for compensation? We have been operating under this now for 4 possibly 5 years and it has hampered our club financially going forward and it would not be in the terrible mess it is in now if this was not under the shadow of the tax case. As I am sure more buyers would have been at the table at the time David Murray was selling up.” Brian was typical though of many fans who feel let down, sold out, the club they thought stood for certain values now in administration and facing possible (or is that becoming probable)liquidation: “…let me say I am a Gers fan and that my club has acted, on the face of it against all that I believed my club to stand for, honesty, fairness and a high level of integrity. I frankly am ashamed and embarrassed…That situation will be resolved shortly I’m afraid and Rangers, if what your investigation said is correct, will be no more.” Large numbers of fans also felt abandoned by the Scottish FA and allied football governing bodies, as Kenny wrote: “Rangers fans have absolutely no love for the SFA, and at times in recent history have been seen to be ‘at war’ with the SFA. The SFA ,I’m sure you are aware, have done little or nothing to help RFC in admin, unlike the FA’s assistance with Portsmouth FC.” A small sample of Rangers’ opinions from around the world – let alone around Govan. It’s clear many are more than clear that simply scapegoating the post-EBT management of Craig Whyte is, right now, missing the point and dangerously shifting attention from those who ran the club into deep debt.
That's probably true. I've been keeping tabs on Alex Thomson, as far as possible, but long ago - years ago - gave up on the Scottish (football) press, so don't really know if they've been going after David Murray much, or at all? (The meedja squabbles in Scotland are amongst the things I care least about in the world, but it would be good to know they are finally trying to do at least an approximation of their jobs. Every time I try to find out, I'm immediately filled with revulsion and memories of the crucifying fixation on all things Rangers and Celtic that would fill the back pages and have to stop reading. Which is ironic, I suppose, as for once I'm properly interested. The quality of the journalism is so shockingly poor, however, that I've never been sure why I should have my time wasted by it.) Incidentally, what's happened to http://rangerstaxcase.com? It seems to have disappeared. Or is that just me? Edit: It's not just me, the site is definitely down. I saw some speculation as to why this might be in the comments on Phil MacGiollaBhain's site, but that's all it is - speculation. Clearly nobody knows why the thing has (temporarily?) disappeared. Not to worry.
Rangers Tax-Case ‏ @rangerstaxcase Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Should be back up in some form within 48hrs. Who was so annoyed that they resorted to illegal action? I don't have a "shred" of evidence. I don't really understand but it seems that someone has brought the site down. the media have been awful, as per usual. Railing against Alex Thompson who is just following the story. A story they should have had all to themselves.... Darryl King had the dual contract story but was too stupid to know what he had. They completely missed Rangers representatives trying to buy St Mirren STV have this http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-ce...n-bidders-links-to-rangers-owner-craig-whyte/ It is a massive story and should tell all Rangers fans all they need to know about what Whytey has planned (and has planned for some time). We will see tomorrow just who goes with it.
the silence from the media is deafening. why are they not going to bain and murray for comments on the channel 4 story. why are they not in contact with c4. tryanor and co still in murray's back pocket
