Errr, you got something wrong here. Webber crashed into Kovalainen and had a huge crash. Noone will call someone after such a big crash an idiot. So a very bad (and wrong too) example.
Autosport driver ratings 1. Sebastian Vettel 7/10 Started: 5th Finished: 11th Strategy: 4 stops (inter-wet-inter-hard-medium) 2. Mark Webber 7/10 Started: 4th Finished: 4th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-medium) 3. Jenson Button 6/10 Started: 2nd Finished: 14th Strategy: 5 stops (inter-wet-inter-inter-inter-medium) 4. Lewis Hamilton 8/10 Started: 1st Finished: 3rd Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-medium) 5. Fernando Alonso 10/10 Started: 8th Finished: 1st Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-medium) 6. Felipe Massa 3/10 Started: 12th Finished: 15th Strategy: 4 stops (inter-wet-inter-inter-medium) 7. Michael Schumacher 6/10 Started: 3rd Finished: 10th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-hard) 8. Nico Rosberg 5/10 Started: 7th Finished: 13th Strategy: 4 stops (inter-wet-inter-inter-hard) 9. Kimi Raikkonen 8/10 Started: 10th Finished: 5th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-hard) 10. Romain Grosjean 5/10 Started: 6th Retired Strategy: 0 stops (soft) 11. Paul Di Resta 9/10 Started: 14th Finished: 7th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-hard) 12. Nico Hulkenberg 8/10 Started: 16th Finished 9th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-hard) 14. Kamui Kobayashi 5/10 Started: 17th Retired Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-medium) 15. Sergio Perez 10/10 Started: 9th Finished: 2nd Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-hard) 16. Daniel Ricciardo 6/10 Started: 15th Finished: 12th Strategy: 4 stops (inter-wet-inter-inter-medium) 17. Jean-Eric Vergne 8/10 Started: 18th Finished: 8th Strategy: 2 stops (inter-inter-medium) 18. Pastor Maldonado 7/10 Started: 11th Finished: 19th Strategy: 4 stops (inter-wet-wet-inter-medium) 19. Bruno Senna 9/10 Started: 13th Finished: 6th Strategy: 4 stops (inter-wet-wet-inter-medium) 20. Heikki Kovalainen 6/10 Started: 24th Finished: 18th Strategy: 4 stops (inter-wet-inter-inter-medium) 21. Vitaly Petrov 8/10 Started: 19th Finished: 16th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-medium) 22. Pedro de la Rosa 6/10 Started: 22nd Finished: 21st Strategy: 2 stops (wet-inter-hard) 23. Narain Karthikeyan 7/10 Started: 23rd Finished: 22nd Strategy: 2 stops (wet-inter-hard) 24. Timo Glock 6/10 Started: 20th Finished: 17th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-medium) 25. Charles Pic 6/10 Started: 21st Finished: 20th Strategy: 3 stops (inter-wet-inter-medium)
Generous to Button there, he finished 14th with the best car after crashing into an HRT and getting outqualified. They gave Schumacher the same score despite him not really doing anything wrong all weekend. 5 for Grosjean as well who was outqualified and crashed twice in 3 laps.
Typical Kimi, didn't come alive until the end, sets the fastest lap (three laps actually) and all of his last seven laps were within 9/10ths of it.
Raikkonen had to put those laps in to get away from Senna, who was catching him up for a while! Interesting to note that Perez did not back down after he went off, and to see Hamilton so far down.
No, Webber clearly missjudged the breaking point of the much slower Kovalainen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtOrPYN4gU
I think it depends on the situation. Button wasn't really dealing with poor performance very well in the second half of '09 and had some moments where I thought he was losing it.
Webber misjudged how early Kovalainen was going to break but Kovalainen was weaving about which caused Webber to get stuck behind him.
If I remember correctly (always a debatable thing to say!) I don't think Jenson ever went up in front of the cameras and publicly insulted another driver. There were times when he stated his opinion about a racing incident, such as Grosjean taking him out at spa, but nothing to the affect of losing respect for another driver and labelling someone as an 'idiot'.
True... But it wasn't like he just brushed it off either. Just different reactions to it all going Pete Tong.
Ohhhhh I see what you did there, this is a subject about Vettel calling people idiots and not about attitudes and being "impetuous" like the start of this discussion was about. Fuji 07, go see what Webber said about Vettel during the safety car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvL20cuGY2I Silverstone 09, Webber yet again having a pop, this time at Kimi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm8g3IC3XrY Abu Dhabi 10, what did you call Petrov swerving at Alonso then, a kiss? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOhUUsMovIg Singapore 11, Massa: "Good job bro, good job." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHzU9IFWh6Y And by those odds buddy it's very likely that others will do the same. Hence they all lose their temper once in a while, which prooves my stance they're all like it.
In none of those examples do they disrespect the other driver like Vettel did to Karthikeyan. In your examples the two Webber ones are just him just saying what they did was stupid, not directly branding them an idiot. Not even going to bother mentioning the Alonso one because that is a none event, and the Massa one was just a sarky comment.
Right Im ending this... Define "disrespect" the word is very broad in opinions, as you see in society there are varid variations of "disrespect". Pretty much every person on this planet has their variation of disrespect, one person may consider it only just by staring at them, the other would consider disrespect by having their mother insulted in front of them. Disrespect has more levels than just one variation how you "try" to portray it, you cant pin it on one example and try to seperate it from the rest and say conclusion A is entirely different from conclusion B and C because he/she did that differently. Webber's rant against Kimi is disrespective towards Finnish people as he is stereotyping their culture which is on the lines of being prejudice in Psychology. "Form of Disrespect" And dont even think about going "Oh not this **** again" as I study Psychology and I think you would be quite suprised how accurate it is if you sat down and read it. Webber swearing about Vettel and on live TV as well. "Disrespect" I dont give a **** if most people believe Webber to be a nice guy, they can believe what they want to believe from the media. I would rather form my own opinion thanks, rather than listening to murray walker's opinion. Yes I think we should mention the Petrov v Alonso one. Petrov showed his anger on the track and tried to intimidate another pissed off driver and was going to damage his car by trying to swipe Alonso. Again "Disrespect" The massa one was not a sarky comment as he was clearly being insulting towards Lewis and trying to provoke him by being aggressive and even slapping him on the back to a moderate amount hoping for an all out argument. "Disrespect" Again define "Disrespect", "impetuous" and "aggression" they are not solid examples of one variation as your portraying it, but a VERY! broad one. Why do you think debate exists? it's because we argue what everything is about on this planet. It's impossible to prove no driver will lose his temper or insult another as no situation is the same FACT! But all drivers will eventually show that emotion in their own way if they all lived for a 100 years. Hence why words are so broad in the first place, schools have failed to tell us this early on. We don't question it we just believe we "know" outright with our own ignorance and will single it out because we are told so: "That is anger, that is sad because because because..." Eventhough it's opinion not a fact. The main reason why you cannot single out one reaction and call it "disrespectful" (or not) when they're angry, is because in fact it's very identical to the others as it comes from the same emotion which in itself cannot be singled out by ourselves to prove our point. So it's impossible to seperate them unless deemed an opinion like you have tried. You cant single out anger, I cant single out anger, nobody can single out anger. Hell! if I was religous I would say only God himself can only define anger. Hence I already won this debate long ago saying you cannot prove it, as opinion isn't fact, just opinion and that's far too broad for it to be even possible let alone valid. No video evidence of abuse or interview of bitterness can claim fact, it only suits your requirments for your own opinion. So you cant prove anything because you dont know what to look for as you yourself cannot single it out, thats the conundrum here. You are unable to prove it. No I'm not trying to make you look like a twat, I dont think im more intelligent than you are, I'm still understanding the world we all are all in, the world should be in your eyes not how society tells you, you shouldn't care what I think and try to be more open minded, even if I could be called a hypocrite a few months back. Look at that, went from F1 to Psychology in less than a page lol. Sorry for the ramblings but I bet you lot didn't expect that from me.
What percentage of the world hasn't had a rant or a sulk when crap went wrong? I think it would be a small percentage. If I were to guess, I'd say it was a similarly small percentage as those who have used the word Cucumber as an insult. Edit: Makes you wonder if Mother Teresa ever dropped the F-Bomb.
