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Oh Dear Roy Keane..........

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  1. daffy_matth10

    daffy_matth10 New Member

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    Written by Keano is today's Sun.

    ALEX FERGUSON is wrong to call Carlos Tevez's return an act of desperation. It's called good management.

    Manchester United have more to lose than City do with Tevez coming back because Ferguson will know full well that he is the sort of player who can turn tight games in his side's favour If he wasn't worried about City, would he even be talking about them?

    Already, we have seen how Tevez set up the winner for Samir Nasri in City's 2-1 win over Chelsea on Wednesday at a time when they needed a spark.

    You don't cut off your nose to spite your face and when you've a good player like Tevez you'd be crazy not to use him.

    OK, Roberto Mancini had to be careful not to lose face in a situation where he had said Tevez would never play for the club again after he had refused to go on as a substitute.

    But once Tevez apologised why wouldn't you bring him back? Ferguson is wrong, it's not desperation, just common sense.

    Does he believe that Tevez should really never play for City again just because Mancini said he wouldn't after he refused to go on the pitch at Bayern Munich?

    Ferguson has been around long enough to know things change and if you're going to apply those high standards then you had better make sure you are consistent.

    Remember it was only last September that Paul Scholes revealed that he had refused to play for United in a League Cup tie against Arsenal in 2001.

    There was no question at the time of Scholesy's United career being over even though he later admitted that what he had done was as bad — if not worse — than Tevez's actions.

    You have to move on in football. Things happen in the heat of the moment but if people are calm and reasonable they can be worked out.

    It might have suited United if Tevez didn't play for City for the rest of the season because he is a talent who increases their attacking options.

    And Ferguson will be fully aware of Tevez's capabilities having worked with him at United.

    He might have allowed him to leave Old Trafford but that doesn't mean he didn't rate him as a player.

    He wouldn't have appreciated his carry-on when he tried to put pressure on him to give him a new contract but he will be aware of what an asset is he is on the pitch.

    The fact that he made such a quick impact on his return to the fold will quell any discontent the City fans might feel about his behaviour and he has a role to play in the run-in.

    He might not start but he doesn't need to because he reminds me of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in his ability to get up to speed in a game almost as soon as he came on.

    Remember that was his first game in five months and he still made his mark. Adrenaline could carry him through until the end of the season even if his fitness is not completely up to the mark.

    The only reason Ferguson felt the need to have a pop at Tevez was because the mind games have started, the sure sign a title race has entered the title straight.

    Once Patrick Vieira said bringing back Scholes was an act of desperation, he was always going to react.

    That's what he does, defend his club and his players. I think he gets a buzz off it.

    Some sports people like Muhammad Ali and Usain Bolt thrive off being in the headlines and creating them and I think Ferguson is the same.

    In years gone by, we've seen him lock horns with Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle but this is a different ball game because the challenge is right on his doorstep.

    He tried to put them down as 'noisy neighbours' before but City have kept coming and got stronger and stronger.

    United feel threatened, there's no doubt about that.

    In the past, Ferguson has got into rows with Arsene Wenger, Rafa Benitez and Kevin Keegan but the key is that his side have always been able to back him up.

    United have walked the walk after he talked the talk so he hasn't been left with egg on his face.

    Wouldn't it be a desperate irony if what he said about a former player came back to haunt him when the two sides meet on April 30?

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    I disagree with him about us being threatened of Man City, we've been here before and got the experience and Sir alex ferguson was asked about the desperdate comments in his press conference he could've said nothing but he gave his opinion.

    Thoughts ?
     
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    Roy has turned into a bitter little Paddy
     
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  3. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    The reason Sir Alex was talking about City is he was asked about a comment from an ex City player?
     
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  4. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Interesting view by Keane. To my mind there was two ways Mancini could have approached it:

    1. Do what he did, say Tevez will never play for the club again and stick to it.
    2. Do what SAF did - give the player a fine and private bollocking a la Scholes, get an apology, and then move on.

    The one thing he shouldn't do is say the player will never play for the club again, and then climb down as soon as the club gets in bad form. He's effectively said "no player is bigger than the club...unless we're in trouble". Hardly good management. It's no wonder his strikers looked disinterested yesterday - do what the manager says, score a load of goals, work for the team all season, then the bloke who pissed on the club comes in and gets all the glory.
     
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  5. SAMOC

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    No to racism
     
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  6. Constcrepe

    Constcrepe Active Member

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    I wish Roy would quieten down sometimes though he is entitled to his view point.
     
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    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Irish are not a race, and I am talking about 1 person not the entire Irish people.

    So get off your high horse :)

    or support team from your own country :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  8. SAMOC

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    I do im from Burnage you ****stain. Racism is as much about nationality as it is any particular race. Get a ****ing dictionary you scouse ****
     
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  9. Ivor Biggun

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    Loved Keane as a player.

    But the year he left he revealed his true colours.

    The mans a first rate ****.
     
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  10. Alan

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    Sadly agree with this. He really has made some shocking comments against Fergie and United after he left the club.
     
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  11. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    I think we all quietly knew this when he was still at the club.
     
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  12. HRH Custard VC

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    fail
     
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    The Scholes situation wasn't directly comparable with Tevez.

    At the time, Fergie was experimenting with 4-4-1-1, playing Scholes in an advanced position behind the striker. Scholes didn't want to play there and his form suffered, which has similarities with how he was treated by England a few years later. Refusing to play was a calculated risk by Scholes, because he knew that Fergie wouldn't have frozen him out or sold him.
     
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  14. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    He's not a Liverpool supporter <doh>
     
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  15. Alan

    Alan Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>Typical Comas.
     
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  16. Bloody Wanker

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    He made a few boo boos as a united player too, remember his prawn sandwich remark? We ain't heard the last of that one!
     
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  17. daffy_matth10

    daffy_matth10 New Member

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    I remember that.
     
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  18. SAMOC

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    I know you ****ing bellshit, I was saying that because he is racist you daft ****
     
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  19. Alan

    Alan Well-Known Member

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    Many United fans do not like him as a person but as a player, he was a legend for United and for that, he will always be respected for his time at our club.
     
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  20. HRH Custard VC

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    THE IRISH ARE NOT A RACE YOU ******ED ****WIT, BLOOD CLOT

    caps off!!1
     
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