...Would we be so patient? With just 8 points in the last 11 league games, if it was anyone but Kenny in charge would we be so tolerant? Kenny Dalglish is a legend, the best player I've ever seen play and as much a part of the history of this great club as Shanks, Bob or anyone else. However don't let the success of the league cup cloud the painfully obvious, Kenny is struggling with the demands of the modern game. Since the turn of the year, we are showing relegation form. No disrespect to QPR or Wigan but they are teams we show beat with ease if we had any designs on a top 4 finish. The agenda at the start of the season was simple, top 4 finish nothing else mattered getting back into Europe's elite competition was the priority. Without the league cup win, we wouldn't be looking forward once again to European nights at Anfield, all be it in the Europa league. People can bang on about giving Kenny time, but that's more out of respect for the man rather than our current form. Aside from Enrique have any of his summer signings improved our team? Downing, Henderson and Adam are at best average and I personally would sell all three this summer and cut our losses on them. Kenny when appointed was the right man to bring stability and some harmony back to the club after Hicks/Gillett and the whole sorry saga of Roy Hodgson. However he should have been a short term appointment. Kenny Dalglish i have nothing but admiration for as a player, as a man and as a legend. But I'm sorry blind loyalty is not enough to take this club forward.
Rafa went through a period where he only had 10 points in 9 games in his first season. Houllier went through a period of 9 points in 11 games in his first season in charge aswell. No one called for either of these managers head, and were rewarded first with a Houllier treble and then with a CL from Rafa. Obviously there is less patience around these days and he's not only getting patience because he's the King. He's getting patience because its ludicrous to give respectable managers (note, hodgson isn't a respectable manager) a couple of seasons to get things right.
You're wrong about Hodgson. But right about everything else. Dalglish is doing ok. He is capable of doing a good job of what is (whether LFC Fans like it or not) taking a Club from a position so far away from Title contention as to be irrelevant, to one that is a serious threat. But it will take time, and vast resources, neither of which he controls, but you as Fans can help him with the former, by being patient.
Key word, patience. As seen down at the Bridge, bringing in the latest on-trend manager does not guarantee sucess.
I think if we hadn't won the League Cup and weren't in the Semi's with a decent chance of winning the FA Cup then there would be no excuses. Lets face it, top 4 was always going to be tough with so many changes to the first team and squad. Yes our recent form isn't good but if we win 2 cups and finish 7th will anyone be that bothered? Look at Spurs there is a real chance they may finish 5th and win nothing yet everyone is saying they have been brilliant this season. Let's give him next season when the team may have gelled a bit and if league form doesn't improve then the contract is up at the end of the season.
Well they say that there always has to be a first time - and it looks like this is it! I AGREE WITH SCHOFIELD. It's a total re-build that is underway. It will take time - though not the vast resources that Schofield asserts. I doubt that it will be complete under Kenny's tenure. This present squad has not been able to live up to the expectations. Some were probably unrealistic. However, when you make wholesale changes you have to be extremely lucky to get instant success but you do look to signs of improvement. Liverpool have improved dramatically in their style of play, their domination of long periods of the game and, until the last few games, the meanness of the defence. Our cause has not been helped by both the injuries to Gerrard, Agger, Johnson, Lucas and the 9 match suspension of Suarez. Carrol, Downing and Adam have taken a long time to settle and I doubt that we will see the best that they have to offer until next season. Carra has proved that this should be his last season - irrespective of his wishes - and Coates should be given his chance at game time. Whilst Spearing has done a good job at covering for Lucas he still has a way to go. Given all of that, we have still won one trophy, are in the semi-final of the FA Cup and could still finish 5th. When put into perspective that is not bad - even if it does not live up to the expectation. The squad will be stronger next season and with the purchase of a few quality players I believe could well be challenging for the title.
I agree with all of this apart from the last sentence, the goal for next year should be to get our selves back into the Champions League so proper European nights finally return to Anfield. Don't think that we will be challenging for the title next year but I would love to be proven wrong.
This country has gained a vicious culture for sacking managers. Its wrong the way some go so easily. All teams have bad patches, especially in the early days of a rebuilding or building process. Have the teams who go by constantly sacking managers got any better from it? No. Have the teams who have kept there managers long term been the most secure? Yes.
Couldn't agree more. To think that at the start of the season, Arsenal were calling for Wenger's head is mad considering they are now hailing this season as one of his greatest achievements. Same goes with Spurs as well, two months ago the supporters rated him as highly as any other manager in the world, but now they've hit a bad patch of form some are calling him tactically naive. This is why we should give Kenny this summer to get some decent players in that can improve our first eleven and then see were next season takes us. If this time next year, we are failing to meet expectations then a change will have to be made.
During the last summer anyone with half a brain could see the serious flaws in the squad..i.e left back, wideman..So why sign Adam and Henderson? Downing was the worst of the wingers available, the man is truly one dimensional and predictable. People argued he got more crosses into the area than any other player last season. But how many of them where of any quality? I'd rather have a stat that says he had more assist than any other player. We have no pace in our midfield, any minus Gerrard little or no creativity. In short we are predictable and light weight.
I agree with most said here, although our league form is patchy we have improved in some key areas, defensively the Agger & Skrtle partnership is sound, I think Enrique sometimes just needs to hoof it away instead of trying to take on 4 players in his own area, I feel we are strong at RB Johnson and Kelly both are good, midfield is a bad area for us we are missing Lucas, Adam, Downing, Henderson aren't doing too much to help their cause, upfront i feel Carroll, Suarez and Gerrard are starting to build a understanding which is good but we need someone to put the ball in the net (Soldado, Remy, Cavani(unrealistic i know))
I disagree. Kenny had to strengthen the spine of the team first, and build a squad that doesnt fall apart when it has a few injuries in one go. He had to lay the foundations first. He also installed some much needed britishness into the team, and some youth. I think Henderson was one of the best signings of the summer and a lot of people before the summer started wanted Downing signed straight away. I think all the people listing Henderson, Adam and Downing like you have are clutching at straws for an excuse. But to me they are signings that made sense. And the flaws you listed: left back - Enrque Wide man - Downing So those were answered. With out the signings of Adam and Henderson our centre midfield options would be: Gerrard, Lucas, Shelvey, Spearing. Gerrard was injured for the first half of the season, Lucas for the second half. Trust me, every one would be screaming 'why didnt he sign a midfielder or two'. Henderson would be at United, Adam at Spurs. I really dont think summer signings are to blame. EVERY ONE STOP BLAMING INDIVIDUALS!!!!
What grinds me are the excuses in the post match interviews, the luck, the ref, the bobbles, the tiredness. Also, correct me if I am wrong, but did we not want to get the Europa last year and have a season just to concentrate on the.........................LEAGUE! What has happened to that idea and notion? I am glad we have done well in the cups but it is the league we wanted to do well in and with no other distractions we should be doing much better. Blaming tiredness is a huge huge excuse, what will our team expect then with FA, Carling, Europa, a summer after Euro's, and the league? If we are tired now then we are in serious trouble next year. Wish he would hve gone a different route with that post match interview, at least say hands up we were shocking and we need to fix ( work on striking, get back to defensive basics, etc).
and to see if our thoughts are still in line with this from the beginning of the season.... http://www.not606.com/showthread.ph...r-finish-John-W-Henry?highlight=kingpepereina
That is one of the things that has annoyed me this season. Hopefully behind closed doors, Kenny is letting the players know how much they need to raise their game.
Have a read at the link i put from the beginning of the season..... how wrong were we wtih United and Spurs and Newcastle
Dalglish " You earn the right for a run out by what you do the pitch" Carroll has played well since Jan but was dropped for 2 consecutive games despite us being "tired" (Liverpool results in the last 7 games that Andy Carroll's started: WWDWWWW â Last 9 without him: DDDLLLLLL )I think Kenny has personality clash with Carroll Sterling was excellent for the 6 minutes + stoppages yesterday ( disgrace he didnt get longer ), surely if Kenny sticks to his word next week he will get MORE minutes, if players are fit I think Sterling will be dropped .Thats why Kenny must not be LFC manager in August He picks his favourites , usually his buys, whether they are sh*t or not
When did Skylarker get banned? I'm not sure it'd be wise for Henry to put more money into the club to be spent by Comolli and Kenny this summer, atleast one of them should go and perhaps both. Kenny inherited a good squad and for the money spent since his arrival you'd expect the team to be up there competing for 4th. There's still time to improve and a good finish to the season could redeem Kenny, as 4th is a very tough position to get and the squad is still being rebuilt but to be so far off the pace is not good. Personally I think you'd be better off without Kenny but I can understand that your loyalties to him afford him extra time to turn things around. Better than being fickle, I guess.
