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Who's going to spend more money now Swarbs.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by KingPepeReina., Mar 22, 2011.

  1. Four2Three1©

    Four2Three1© Active Member

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    Wow..

    First of all i'm not Swarbs...
    And what has this got do with Wayne Rooney..?
    You are aware that KingPepe also "slated" Dzeko, So what exactly is your point..?
    I personally do not rate Dzeko, it's my right..He may well surpise me and become a world beater, but I doubt it...


    Did you even read my post before replying with your rant...?I spent my whole post talking about Man City and Tottenham (who KingPepe has been slating) and you decide to rant on about United...

    Try to actually address the topics in my post if you want to reply..
     
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  2. KingPepeReina.

    KingPepeReina. Active Member

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    Fourtwothree1.
    He addressed you before he addressed Swarbs.
    I agree with you,that you have every right to dismiss Dzeko as he hasn't set the world alight.Andy Carroll has the excuse of being injured.Whats Dzekos excuse.He came from a different league.So did Luis Suarez.
    If any player has adapted to the premier league quicker than expected it has to be Javier Hernandez.I will hold my hands up and admit that Ferguson got that one spot on.He pulled off a masterstroke there.Compare him to Ballotelli who cost 4 times more.Who did the better business?,Ferguson is the daddy.Chris Smalling is doing quite well too,But Roy Hodgson deserves some credit for that having plucked him from non league.
    However back to Bringbackfootees point before,I reckon Man United won't be as marketable as they were before when Wayne Rooney is the ''face of manchester united.''.Now most marketable footballers usually live like monks and are clean.So how is a a fat granny shagging thug who humps kerb crawlers going to be marketable,and companies do look into this.He's already lost one or more of his sponsors.
    George Best was a prime example,He was the first footballing superstar....until he was more famous for his off the field exploits than his on the field exploits,when they were reversed,he wasn't touched with a barge pole by companies.
    So will Man United be as marketable as they were previously,the answer is no,and that is the reason why they have been overtaken by Real Madrid in the money league.
     
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  3. Four2Three1©

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    Fair enough, nice that we can agree on somethings...

    To be honest, i'm just going to keep my mouth shut (regarding transfers) and wait 'til the summer....
    We can all do as much talking and bigging-up as we like, but it's all out of ours hands...

    I've given up on anyone replying to post number 58, so i'm done on this thread...
     
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  4. KingPepeReina.

    KingPepeReina. Active Member

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    Thats a good idea,If we could predict the future,we would know what the lottery numbers are.But swarbs was a bit delusional when he was saying Ferguson has a big transfer war-chest.The financial experts suggest otherwise.
     
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  5. Dez Dubz

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    KingPepeReina, As an Irish liverpool supporter please stop making a dick of yourself. I'd love nothing more than to see man u slide into decline but stop throwing out finacial figures you read in the paper today. I honestly can't see man u not investing in the summer, purple nose is no fool and can see the lack of talent in the midfield.
     
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  6. Swarbs

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    When did I say Ferguson had a big transfer war chest? I simply pointed out that United's accounts (which are formal legal documents and it is illegal to falsify) say that the club has about £135 million in the bank as of the 31st December (it was £165 million at the 30th June but they paid some of the debt off). And which "financial experts" are saying United don't have money in the bank?!

    In fact, I seem to remember you being the one who was delusional, insisting that Liverpool were going to outspend everyone in the PL and reach the number 1 spot in less than four years. Let me know how that one works out for you...
     
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  7. KingPepeReina.

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    Which financial experts?
    The one in London of course,the ones that know more about bonds than some of the Man United fans.
    I also know for a fact that when the Glazers purchased those bonds,they went so in the right way,they purchased them at a fixed rate of interest. If they have purchased them at a variable rate,it long term could have been both catastrophic for both them and Manchester United.Short term at a variable rate,things would be fine,because the worlds economy is in a mess and the interest rates are currently low.However that at any moment can change.That is why a fixed rate is the best option,like a mortgage.Mortgage holders are usually best advised to take fixed rate of interest rather than a variable rate,because short term,the variable rate looks attractive but long term,it can be very dangerous.
    However,come 2017 when those bonds mature......?
     
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  8. BringBackfootie

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    We'll see what Hernandez will do when the attention and focus from defenders is on him. He was an unknown until this season so if he performs like this and doesn't pull a Nando then he is the real deal, but it is far too early to be yadda yadda this that, he has yet a lot to prove in this league but there is no denying he has ability and a quick brain. Dzeko, yeah KPR???? new club new country and he gets what, he's already ****, Henry was **** and well, you probably would have rated him after a few months too? Comparing to Suarez is just nonsense so I expect better from you matey, different people there just because they both play football, everything in their lives should be the same? hence they can be directly comparable. Complete rubbish, there are very good players that have gone to another league and not performed at all even though they were quality. No way has Dzeko played long enough to be judged, nor Hernandez for that matter. Proof is in hte pudding but you gotta cook the pudding biatch:) At the end of Next season if Dzeko has more goals than Hernandez, what then, Hernandez is ****? yadda yadda yadda. Too quick to judge either player Volks
     
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  9. David Ngod

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    pretty sure you just compared dzeko to henry in that, bit hypocritical
     
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  10. BringBackfootie

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    oh Swarbs, when you get paid, you got plenty in the auld Bank, but you aint bought leccy food paid your rent or mortgage and all the other expendatures. Yet it is true when you say you have XXX amount in the bank, but you cant spend it, thats the problem, you have it but cant spend it as it is there to pay for this and that.

    Yes they have 135m but they cannot go and spend 135m on players can they, ye'll be lucky to get 35m of that this summer
     
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  11. KingPepeReina.

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    The ecomomists in London who know more about bonds than Man United have said that the Glazers have already taken a huge bite out of that 135 million.
    Will they have that 135 million to spend,definitely not especially as the Glazers take into Rooneys increase in wages,which adds up 12 million.If you know anything about contract law you would know that the old contract went out the window.and as soon as he put pen to paper,thats when the new contract was activated.So thats 12 million gone.There is also the reported 20 million that the glazers pay themselves a year and that is without the additional 'consultation fees'' they pay themselves.To even suggest,just because David Gill said there is 135 million in the bank,it doesn't mean there is.If Ferguson gets anythiing,he'll be lucky to get 1/4 of it.
    As for Liverpool John Henry has said he will match the january outlay in the summer.Okay the january outlay was offset by sales,but he will match the figure.So in that respect,Kenny will have 50 million to play with plus sales revenue.
     
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  12. xumanah

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    So if take the facts and remove what you think then by my calculations, if SAF is luckly, he'll get £33.75M to spend whereas Henry said he would match spend, KD will have £58M -£50M (Sale of Torres) = £8M to spend.

    HAHAHAHAHA.

    MAn Utd could easily spend £50-£80M if they wanted to, but why do it when they can win the Premier League spending next to nothing????? I don't get it.
    Even if Liverpool spend £50M, they still wont match Man Utd's ability to challenge for the league!!!
    Liverpool need to spend £50M for a few years to even have a chance.
     
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  13. Swarbs

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    Sounds good to me:

    £33.75million
    Sell Kuszczak to Galatasary for a couple of million

    £36 million to spend

    David de Gea - £18 million
    Daniele de Rossi - £18 million

    Bosh. Who said we were in a crisis again? <ok>
     
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  14. BCR

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    I still think everyone is going for the tabloids and obvious choices on who is going to buy who. yes there will be some that we all saw coming but I like that where did that come from type of buy. or I didn't know we were talking to him.

    Like Diego apparently even coming out and say he basiaclly wants to join us ( again its tabloids so whether it was Diego or not) but that has come out of nowhere.
     
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  15. HRH Custard VC

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    Will Kenny get the players he wants to come to Liverpool?
    Especially when they cant offer CL and may not get a Euro spot at all.

    Never trust what a tabloid says about player x wanting to come to us/them as its often made up
     
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  16. Swarbs

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    The Diego one is a prime example of tabloids creating stories for themselves. What actually happened was he was interviewed and the reporter told him Liverpool were interested in him and asked what he thought He replied "I am honored that such a club has set their eyes on me. They are one of the most prestigious teams in the world. Playing for them would be an honour."That has been effectively turned by the tabloids into a statement that he wants to leave, when in actual fact loads of players make those kind of unspecific "I am honoured they're interested, they're a great club" statements around this time of year.

    Similar story with de Rossi - he's made some quotes that he feels the Roma fans aren't supporting him any more, and since SAF has praised him in the past that has been turned into a "he's going to United" story.

    Like you say, either of those moves could happen, but it's still early doors and they're not necessarily more likely to occur than any others.
     
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  17. KingPepeReina.

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    Sell Kucsczak for a couple of million.
    Only Man City would be stupid enough to pay$ a couple of million for Kucsczak
    He's no better than Fabianski at Arsenal.
     
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  18. HRH Custard VC

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    Who payed £35M for an unproven striker, so there are teams which are stupid enough to pay over the odds
     
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  19. KingPepeReina.

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    Who paid paid £35 million for a unproven striker.
    That unproven striker has scored more premiership goals this season than Wayne Rooney.Oops I forgot Rooney has had ''personal problems''.
    Since when is screwing whores when your wife is up the duff a personal problem.?
     
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  20. robin_van_ fiberglass

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    Before Fabianski got injured he has proved himself to be a good keeper, the start of his Arsenal career was absolutely awful though.
     
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