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Is Graham Spiers right?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by DevAdvocate, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. VenomPD

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    <laugh> <laugh>

    Only NewsBot kills more threads than me!!!

    I'm The Discussion Ender!
     
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    Wear it like a badge. <laugh>
     
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  4. VenomPD

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    <laugh>

    Already changed my profile to highlight that as soon as I saw it. It just proves that with sheer bloodymindedness and an inability to accept truth or rationality you can grind people into some sort of resigned submission.
     
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    The gay wedding between him and Pope went sour when Pope ran off with a smooth-skinned latino boy from Puerto Rico in San Francisco's "Castro District"

    What a ****ing surprise though; Rangers beat Celtic and this auld ugg-boot wearing closet case shows up on time like a ****ing solar eclipse.
     
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    Another deflection from the fact your team was beaten... This must have made you feel better. Help that complex you got.
     
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    £3.90 for a pint of Wreck the Hoose Juice in this hotel. ****ing robbing Sassenach bastards.
     
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  11. DevAdvocate

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    I never wrote that, A Gers fan did.

    Do try and keep up.
     
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    Did you post the article on Graham Spiers? I think you did.... Is this attempt at a double deflection?
     
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    If you care to track back through this thread you will see I just posted it, I made no comment upon it's content either in the positive or the negative. I simply asked a question "is Graham Spiers right?".

    I'm guessing I can put you down for a "No" then?
     
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    what about extra time ?
     
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    I would say Graham Speirs is broadly correct.... Rangers do have a problem with bigotted chants. I would say Celtic have the same problem BUT would say Rangers have a marginally bigger problem....hard to quantify how much.

    I liked how you jumped to the question to again.....deflect.

    My point in my original thread was to shed light on that I think most fans Gers or Tic sing these songs to wind up the opposing fans. I think the majority of people who sing the songs dont give a damn... Doesnt make it right, no - agreed there....but the question is does that make you a bigot. Surely bigots have to do more than wind up the opposing fans. Trying have semi intelligent conversation here - so dont come back with ****y dismissive comment unless its either its a riposte, wind up or a intelligent jibe. Either that you could quietly slip away...
     
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    Quietly slip away? <laugh> I don't do that.

    It's refreshing to hear someone of a Rangers persuasion actually admit that Spiers may have a point.

    I take my hat off to you.
     
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    it is refreshing indeed. I just don't know what bigoted songs you might be referring to when you mention Celtic fans. I am not throwing down a gauntlet or anything like that, I just don't know what you view as bigoted. I don't believe that there is a problem at all at Celtic in that regard.

    I am not burying my head in the sand, I just don't hear them or see them. I think the songs and chants that Dev finds unpalatable are something else entirely. That is his prerogative and I can only state my own case as I see it, but I will absolutely defend those songs against accusations of being bigoted.
     
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  18. greenhenky

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    yes...
     
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    I never said the songs about the IRA are sectarian, they are political I believe but I still personally find them offensive but I can fully understand why others don't.
     
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  20. RebelBhoy

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    That is the point i was making Dev. our disagreement over these songs would be conducted with different perameters. I can accept that you hold that viewpoint.
     
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