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The Midfield Battle

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Kyle?, Mar 18, 2012.

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Which Midfield Team is in the Best Shape?

  1. Ferrari

  2. Mercedes

  3. Lotus

  4. FI

  5. Sauber

  6. Toro Rosso

  7. Williams

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  1. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    I just don't think either williams driver should be in F1. okay, here's a list of drivers who don't belong on the grid (IMO)

    Maldo
    Senna
    Karthikeyan
    De La Rosa
    Rosberg
    Schumacher
    Webber
    Perez


    There, this bunch should be fired with immediate effect.
     
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  2. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    I've not voted because I do not consider Mercedes or Ferrari to be a "midfield team". Since I expect them both to out-score all other teams on the list, it makes the list largely irrelevant.

    However, of all the teams after Mercedes and Ferrari, I expect Lotus Renault to make a good claim for the next spot.
     
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  3. Kyle?

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    My poll was talking about the present, not the future. Once mass sackings have occured at Ferrari, and the car comes good, then i will think of them as a top team again. Mercedes however just suck. The pace is there on short runs, but over long runs it's slower than the williams, and far worse on it's tyres. It's probably the biggest dud of 2012.
     
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  4. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I think this is a point worth remembering - ten years! But F1 isn't a sentimental sport unlike many of its fans, me included - força Bruno!
     
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  5. Kyle?

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    I don't like sentimentality. We live in the here and now, no relying on past glories, or relative's reputations.
     
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  6. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

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    I think that is more petulance rather than any kind of argument. <ok>
     
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  7. Kyle?

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    It may be petulant, but it's correct. Look where petulance has got Sebastian Vettel, 2 world titles for being an irritating little ****.
     
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  8. Masanari

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    Also this is an interesting read.

     
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  9. Masanari

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    <doh>.
     
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  10. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    You refer to, and criticise JA606. I looked in there once and closed the book. The reason? Comments such as posted here in this thread.
    I thought this place had evolved into something rather more respectful…

    So, as a mark of my respect for you, I have spent some time to make this comment in the interests of the forum and the respect I hope you have for yourself. Why not think of this for a moment: if you want this place to continue to be worth your effort, why not tidy yourself up and contribute to its respectful debate?

    I know you have something to say, but presenting it like this,
    Kyle, just doesn't say it.
     
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  11. Kyle?

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    He was only 2 tenths quicker than the dreadful Lucas Di Grassi. Thats hardly a ringing endorsement. Yet again, i win, and this time you contributed to your own downfall.
     
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  12. Kyle?

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    Well forgive me for being "Petulant" (mifunes words), but it's the only way i can get my points across.
     
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  13. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Kyle, I know from reading your posts generally that you're an intelligent member here but for some reason you just want an argument tonight and keep contradicting yourself, as Cosi pointed out earlier. This isn't JA606 and you wouldn't want it to be so sort it out, please.
     
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  14. Kyle?

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    I was using an example, it was hardly a nostalgia festival, god, am i the only sane person left?

    NURSE! The lunatics are running the asylum.
     
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  15. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    The point is that you fail to get your point across when presented like this. I happen to agree with some of your thoughts when presented more mildly. But when I read more than 50% of your comments in this thread so far, I see precisely what Mifune saw and you have here (rather more maturely) agreed with.

    Well done; it's a good move. You are valuable to this forum and your passion is laudable. But this needs to remain tempered - just as demonstrated by those you've goaded with "get over it" etc. in this thread. There's no need for it,
    Kyle. You're better than that.
     
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  16. Kyle?

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    If you don't like what i write, you don't have to read it. There's no law forcing you to do so. I was right, if you can't accept it, then it's not my problem. We all have opinions, just mine happened to be the correct ones.
     
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  17. cosicave

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    Well, since I respected you, I wanted to read your thread.
     
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  18. allsaintchris.

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    That's like having an argument with the wife............
     
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  19. di Fredsta!

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    Voted Sauber due to Lotus and Merc looks slow in the race, Sauber look quick everywhere.
     
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  20. happyal

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    At the moment I'd pretty much agree with this.

    Only difference is that I would put Williams down 1 teir, and add HRT to the Caterham and Marussia.

    I also think that this will change quite a bit during the season as some teams get on top of the car and bring updates, and others fall behind. I still think it'll be between Red Bull and McLaren all season long.
     
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