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Time to take off the blinkers...

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  1. King_of_Portman_Rd

    King_of_Portman_Rd Well-Known Member
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    I know he isn't the most popular and I myself have not rated him but Grant Leadbitter was our best player put there, some pretty ordinary performances from most.. Delaney was dreadful but leadbitter showed that bite and energy and composure he's been so lacking for a while. Good win after an average display
     
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  2. San Diego

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    Playing for a contract away from PR. If he had played like that over the last couple of years he wouldn't be so hated on.
     
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  3. johnnywarksmoustache

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    Agreed San Diego! <ok>
     
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  4. johnnywarksmoustache

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    To be honest the game today could have ended up being anything! End to end stuff from begining to end and my heart was in my mouth when Boyd had that chance in the final few seconds! We are the 3rd highest scorers in the league! The problem has always been that we have to score at least 3 to win very game.
     
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  5. Hoppersblue10

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    Leadboots MOM....but as SD has said he is now playing to a wider audience, shame that it takes that to bring out the best in him....Edwards had another decent display at RB...for me player player of the season, so far.!
     
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  6. DUNDEE BLUE

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    What a load of bollox . Playin to a wider audience my arse . Maybe he is just able to concentrate on his own game now with out havin to worry about bein captain . Obviously he couldnt cope with that . I sometimes wonder how some of the lads on here come up with these conspiracy theories . Reckon SD amongst others has been watchin too much tinker tailor soldier spy

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  7. San Diego

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    He was only recently made captain, what's his excuse for the two years previous? Maybe you watch too many spy movies and are second guessing yourself. Personally I think Leadknob is an undercover Norwich agent, 'cos he ain't a ****in' footballer.
     
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    Paul Taylor has always looked a tricky player, how did he look over 90 minutes? Worth a 500k punt?
     
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  9. Hoppersblue10

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    Leadboots has been WAY underperforming for the last couple of seasons, he was only skipper for the 1st half of this season.

    His play has been much improved since he has come back from injury recently, but the team as a whole has also been much improved so not quite so hard to perform in a team that is playing well (comparatively).

    For what it is worth IF Leadboots could carry this form through to the end of the season then I think he may be worth offering a reasonable contract extension, but time will tell, if he can maintain his form and if he stays....

    Have not seen TTSS is it any good, I clearly need more work on my conspiracy theories...<ok>
     
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  10. DUNDEE BLUE

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    Point taken Hoppers but my point was that until recently the whole team was a bag of **** . No one on that field was worth a contract and now the team is actually doin well as individual players and more importantly as a team including leadboots , i'm not really sure why he is getting singled out for constant slating .

    They do say players only play to the level of others around them , maybe thats the reason or there maybe other reasons we dont know about but i dont believe for 1 minute that he has been playing poorly intentionally now picking up his game to impress any potential suitors . PJ would of spotted that in a minute and he would be out .

    IMO he was just another player caught up in the crap town have gone through in the last few seasons .


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  11. itfcptc

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    IMO there is a decent player in leadbitter somewhere and i do think, that not having the responsibility of the captains armband has helped, but like alot of you have said its also that we are now looking like a decent team whereas in the past few years noone has really played well. Look at players like Walters who we weren't bothered about leaving but now he looks like a very good player and one that we could've got alot more money for!! Really some players are natural leaders and others grow into the role, leadbitter is clearly not a leader and neither did he get chance to grow into the role!!

    McAuley should not have been made captain straight away at the club and once he lost the armband appeared to be better for it, thats not to say though I think if he would of stayed he should have been reinstated as captain because i think after being at the club for a few seasons and being one of the better performers he would have grown into the role.

    As for Edwards, its funny how suddenly he is being said as the most consistent performer of the season when really for the first half of the season everyone was saying how bad he was!! For me he's not the long term answer, but going forward as a RB, he's the best we've had since probably Wilnis!! And he's much better going forward as a RB than he ever was as a RM!!
     
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  12. truth seeker

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    Not a convincing performance at all. Peterborough were the better team, and had more of the ball. Leadbitter and Edwards were our best players, Tommy Smith's lack of awareness and mobility were responsible for their first goal, and sorry Mccarthy in goal is a nightmare. To me it looked as if Cresswell's shot for the goal was not on target, allthough am not sure, if it was, it is not his goal, and must go down as an own goal, this needs looking into.
     
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  13. johnnywarksmoustache

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    There are a few moaning minnies on here today..! <whistle>

    We got the 3 points despite playing below par, a game we would have easily lost a few months ago! Its better to win ugly than play well and get beat. We seem to have entered the Joe Royle era again when we basically say that if you score 2 we will score 3! <ok> We are the 3rd highest goal scorers in the league FFS! It has just underlined the fact that if Jewell had done more to bolster our slipshod defence we would be right in the promotion mix now. Instead we are lowly mid table and left pondering what might have been. The blame lays squarely with Jewell for this as we have all known for months that we can score goals but can't bloody defend. How many times this season have we had to score at least 3 goals to win?
     
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  14. Hoppersblue10

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    I think you will find I have been speaking up for Edwards all season, I have asked at least a couple of times for the names of RBs that are a better "option" than Carlos, not to many names have been put forward, remember they need to be available want to come here & at the right price......that makes Carlos our best option...!
     
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  15. San Diego

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    JWM,
    This season was never going to be one for a serious promotion push but we are at least going forwards. Regulars at PR can't complain about not seeing entertaining football though. There has been a shed ton of goals scored, both for and against so it must beat watching the anti football of Keanes era, right?
    PJ, in his defence, did bring defenders in, Collins, Inga, Sonko, so he did try to address the problem but for various reasons some didn't work out and surprisingly we are back to Delaney and Smith, who aren't doing too bad. He has also been in for other defenders that didn't work out but you're not going to make every transfer happen. At times this season we have looked like a very poor team so it's not surprising some players may not want to take a chance joining us. If we can finish off in good form, even if we only make 11th or 10th, we will be more attractive to players in the summer. We can't take the foot of the gas now, we need to win as many of our remaining matches to help pull in the reinforcements next transfer window.
    While nailbiting at times you have to admit that the Joe Royle style (as you put it) is better to watch than playing for a draw.
     
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  16. fieldmarshall

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    To be honest I thought the clock had been turned back 3 months in the first half, the defence was back to its most useless and we could have conceded 3 or even 4 by half time! I thought this was caused by Boro having some fast, lively players up front and our midfield not getting in the game and not giving our defence much cover.
    It got better in the 2nd half and Leadbitter did come into the game more as time wore on, Jet was useless, and Murphy was a little better than his dreadful display at Hull last week. As has already been said sometimes you have to win ugly and it is 3 points gained and so the good run continues. I just hope we get some decent defenders in the summer otherwise next season will go the same way as this one.
     
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  17. itfcptc

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    Hoopers, that was not the point I was trying to make about Edwards, sorry I didn't make it very clear. What I meant was how, everyone has said how Edwards has been one of our most consistent players this season now when in fact he has been dreadful defensively for most of the first part of the season.

    I've always thought he has been superb going forward from RB, I was never very impressed with him since he has been at Ipswich as a winger but defensively sometimes he has been shocking, whilst I don't think this would be a major problem if we had 2 good CB's we don't, so therefore he can be a real liability. We still need a RB for next season to hopefully come straight into the team, but Edwards could still be a useful player for us next season.

    San Diego Indeed this season even though there has been some horrific results even amongst the worse(appart from the Burnley game) I have always thought I'm so glad that its not like watching paint dry anymore!! Also in PJ's defence he has made us a more attacking force than before he was here bringing in his own players which means that we needed a large amount of players over the summer, not all of them are going to come off, as we basically needed a whole new team, that was never going to happen in the space of a year!! I would also say that although we are playing with the Royle philosophy atm, I think we are playing far better football atm than we did under Royle!!
     
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  18. johnnywarksmoustache

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    Thats the best <laugh> I've had all season! <ok>
     
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  19. itfcptc

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    I'm sure if you reread your own threads you'd be in stitches!!

    We are playing more attractive football under Jewell than Royle. The football under Royle was much more direct.
     
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  20. johnnywarksmoustache

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    Come on mate!

    We finished in the play-offs 2 seasons running under Royle! We simply outscored the opposition and we never got turned over like we have under this clown. To say that we are playing better football now than under Royle is just plain laughable!
     
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