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OMG Muamba?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Steven Royston O'Neill, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Understood, thought there was some Twitter news etc from the mouth of a pro <ok>
     
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  2. Sunderpitt

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    This is awful, hope it all turns out OK
     
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  3. Billy Death

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    I'm with you here Steve.

    I nearly always fall into unconsiousness so have to rely on witnesess as to what actually went on.
     
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  4. Chappaz

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    It just isn't the same though. It maintains partial circulation and extends the window slightly for someone to attempt defibrillation, but it doesn't take long for damage to start setting in, albeit mild at first. This is especially the case when the body's cardiovascular system is going full pelt only moments after the extremely intense exercise, so what little oxygen is getting pumped around by CPR is being taken in by the muscles at a much higher rate than normal.

    It's fairly on the fence after 10 minutes in, but beyond that damage can start setting in and gradually get worse.
     
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  5. Nads

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    It seems crazy that there is no sign of these kind of things, all of the players that have been lost in the last few years had a clean medical record.

    Kanu, of course, had surgery whilst at Inter for a hole in the heart, and plays on touching 40.
     
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  6. Billy Death

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    Chappz, not having a go mate but did you study medical stuff or physio or owt like that?
     
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  7. Lostinvegas

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    My god I hope the tweets about him breathing again are true. Risk of brain damage is usually after 20 minutes. I am no expert but my Mrs and house mate are they are having some medical conversation about it I don't understand.

    I am just praying for the lad and I am not even religious.
     
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  8. Chappaz

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    Italy have actually been doing HCM screening for all professional athletes for decades. It's meant that cases of cardiac arrest due to HCM have reduced by something like 98%.

    Not sure why other countries don't do it.
     
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  9. Billy Death

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    Jimmy Bullard & Peter Cech come to mind mate, both almost died.

    Just go's to show, you never know what's around the bloody corner.
     
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  10. Nads

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    That will explain the Kanu thing, there was an AC Milan player as well, still playing, but can't remember who it was, who had surgery.

    Of course, on Milan, Antonio Cassano is in rehab right now from this kind of incident.
     
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  11. Jerry the Jinx

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    Just got in from pub and reading about all this
    Just hope he pulls through
     
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  12. Chappaz

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    I've self-educated myself on a lot to do with this type of thing over many years, including nutrition and exercise.

    CPR prolongs the window, but brain damage does start setting in fairly quickly, although it's very mild at first and then gradually gets more profound. If Muamba does recover, he could have brain cell damage but no visible symptoms. It doesn't always mean the stereotypical view of brain damage where someone ends up severely disabled.
     
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  13. blackcatsteve

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    I am not medical at all, I have seen a lot of ****e, I have done first aid courses, but thats about it.

    Usually the miracles you hear of. 30 minutes + without Oxygen/Dead etc are in severe cold weather, Normal circumstances are 10-20 minutes ish.

    I am waiting for official word on his condition, **** twitter etc, worse than the sun IMHO.

    as for the coverage, the ball went back to the Bolton keeper, they went and showed Muamba on the ground, medic tried to turn him, he was shaking, then panned away and never showed anything else, so everyone atm is just speculation, but the longer this takes, the less likely it will be very good news :( .
     
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  14. CyprusMackem

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    He's STABLE. Great news
     
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  15. Chappaz

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    Source?
     
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  16. CyprusMackem

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    SSN direct from the hospital.
     
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  17. Nads

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    Brilliant.
     
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    Hope this is true!!
     
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  19. blackcatsteve

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    SSN as well are saying he is stable.
     
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  20. Billy Death

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    Stable according to the radio too.
     
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