I'm sure they'd be intimidated by his baby face! This is the last things he needs though.. Clearly a player who's affected heavily by confidence
the people sending him insults are idiots, but ive always said footballers should not be allowed on there, if i was a chairman/manager i would ban it. it just creates distraction and unwanted hassle, like this incident.
DJ is right, but I suppose it comes down to freedom of speech. Maybe the best thing would be for Tweets to be approved somehow by the clubs but not sure how that would work.
I have met many of our players and I've yet to meet one who has ever looked on a message board, the younger lads we have are probably more likely to look than the players we've had in the past, but I'm still yet to meet one who has.
There is a difference between criticism and abuse - the fact is he has not been playing well and does appear to be lazy in parts of the game. I am sure if players do read the board they might well be pissed off about what is said but what are we supposed to do, just fill every post with how wonderful every player is and how much we love them. I have been encouraging about players and defended them when other people have had a go if I have a different opinion. I don't think anything I have said should make anyone hostile towards the players, if you think my post was bad did you read the ones on Cullen a couple of weeks ago that could have definitely created negativity and hostility towards him but I think most people on here are sensible and make their own mind up proven by the fact that an equal number of people have been positive about him. If your going to be a professional footballer then you have to get used to a certain amount of criticism.
It's true, there are very big difference between posting 'Stewart isn't doing at the moment, he should be dropped to the bench' on a football message board and saying '**** off to Leicester you lazy ****', to the player directly.
So do you think criticising our players benefits them or negatively affects them? I don't understand why people do it to be honest. It seems counter-productive. If you knew it was counter-productive, would you still do it?
Cameron Stewart is not the player he was a couple of months ago. What does he need to get back to that form? The carrot or the stick, or both? He made a couple of unforced errors yesterday and got boos and abuse, swiftly drowned out by applause and encouragement, as some of the more intelligent fans realised that the old 'Bloody rubbish, City' need to be silenced and shamed.
If it's at a game, then obviously it will have a negative effect, if comments are aimed at the player directly on something like Twitter, then again it's likely to have a negative effect, if it's just on a football message board, then it's likely to have no effect at all as they're unlikely to see it.
It seems that Nick is sticking with him, as he doesn't want to dent his confidence further, but I'd suggest that isn't working at all. I think dropping him to the bench and making him fight for place back is probably exactly what he needs, I was really surprised he started yesterday.
Maybe if Brady is only half fit, Barmby still had to play him, giving him out of sorts winger on one side, half fit winger on the other. What's the alternative? McClean out wide? Maybe Barmby feels he has no alternative.
" if it's just on a football message board, then it's likely to have no effect at all as they're unlikely to see it." Not an immediate, direct effect no. But a drip-drip-drip undermining of that player if it takes root. Barmby appeals for the crowd to be the 12th man, which will not happen as long as we have cvnts insisting on their sacrosanct right to have a negative opinion and voicing it
Stewart has contributed nothing in the last few games, you can't seriously expect over 1,000 people on this board to ignore that fact and pretend everything's fine. This board is simply a reflection of peoples conversations away from it, half the posts on here about who we each rate, or don't rate and they always will be.
There are a number of players who are not good enough or are underperforming. That's why we're down in 9th. You could fill a board every day identifying their defects and weaknesses. To what end? To show how knowledgable you are or to show how much you 'care' and how 'passionate' you are????? As a supporter, you should get behind the team even if you are perfectly aware of the weaknesses in the team (Not you personally of course....)
2 things. 1) If you want to call someone a **** you can just call them a ****, there's no need on here to put a v in there when you're on here. There's a swear filter on here that can be turned on and off as users see fit, all putting the v there does is stop people being able to filter it out when they don't want to see it. and 2) So you've just joined in by saying he's not the player he was a couple of months ago? What's the difference between you saying that and saying he needs support to get his confidence back, and other people saying it and saying he needs to be dropped so that he can either play reserve games or just be taken out of the spotlight until his confidence is back, which is what the majority of the critics have been doing?
"So you've just joined in by saying he's not the player he was a couple of months ago? What's the difference between you saying that and saying he needs support to get his confidence back, and other people saying it and saying he needs to be dropped so that he can either play reserve games or just be taken out of the spotlight until his confidence is back, which is what the majority of the critics have been doing?" Yeah, I reluctantly addressed the fact that in most people's opinion, CS' performances have dipped...... There is a massive range of reaction to when a player makes a mistake/ underperforms/is out of form etc This club's fans historically favour the destructive negative approach (booing and abuse) to encouragement and applause to a player out of sorts. Each player is unique and has his individual character- some respond to the carrot, some to the stick. Some want to play their way back into form, others benefit from being dropped. That's Nick Barmby's call. The best way is the one that works. In Cameron Stewart's case, none of us know what that is.
If you're that bothered about it, try and get everyone around you singing his name (as long as you're not in the West of course). Players like him must love hearing a bit of encouragement from the crowd and we should enjoy chanting players' names, not just singing about how **** the opposition fans are all the time.
I think those of us saying he should be dropped are generally trying to encourage him at games, like you say the boos were getting drowned out. My view is he's out of form and needs to be dropped so he's out of the spotlight whilst he sorts out what ever it is that's wrong in his head at the moment. He's been playing and getting progressively worse and I can't see how it's a fitness thing because of the rests he's been getting between games. If it's an attitude thing then he needs dropping to give him a kick up the arse. And if it's a confidence thing then trying to play him through it isn't working because he's getting worse, so taking him out of the spotlight and away from fans getting more and more frustrated at us falling behind our rivals who'll turn on him is what I think is best for the player and the club. It's not a case of slagging Stewart off, it's a case of acknowledging what can realistically be changed (eg his presence in the team) and what we're stuck with (eg people in the stadium who'll get on his back for everything and not offer praise when he's done something good) and then making the best decision.
I'm sure it's a combination of fitness and confidence, maybe he feels the odd twinge in his knee, like I said one of those injuries used to be a career killer years ago before modern treatment of injuries, we all agree it's time for him to be left out I reckon.
has anybody just considered he might just be slightly overrated? im not saying he is, just another option, people are puzzled why he isnt running rings around everybody, but how many great games for us has he actully had? he took a while to get going last year, then had a few before his bad injury, then when returning this year he had a good spell, but his poor games far outweigh the good so far this season...maybe hes just a decent player that his actual price tag from united suggests, and not a brilliant one? as i said, thats not my opinion, just throwing it out there...
