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I know this is stating the obvious but this is going to get messy

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  1. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Rangers administrators and Ticketus heading for dispute over £24.4m season ticket deal

    The London firm is believed to be confident its deal with the Ibrox club will withstand any legal challenge or liquidation.

    Rangers administrators and Ticketus are heading for a major dispute over the season ticket deal that funded Craig Whyte’s takeover. Mr Whyte sold around 100,000 future season tickets to the London firm for £24.4m to effectively finance his takeover of the Ibrox club. He used the money to wipe off Rangers’ £18m bank debt to Lloyds Banking Group, while administrators said the rest of the money did not go through the club's books.

    Duff and Phelps are believed to be looking into the validity of the season ticket sale to Ticketus and whether it would be possible to remove Rangers from the deal, potentially leaving Mr Whyte to deal with the firm directly.

    However, STV understands Ticketus has taken legal advice on several occasions about the validity of the deal and the company remains confident it will withstand any future court challenge from the administrators. The firm, which has long experience in deals with football clubs in severe financial difficulty, believes that the arrangement would stand regardless of whether Rangers’ assets are sold to a new company and the old one liquidated.

    It has stated it has already bought the season tickets from Rangers FC Plc, not loaned the club money, and it is therefore the legal owner. Ticketus has this week been in discussions with administrators as well as some of the parties that have registered an interest in taking over crisis-hit Rangers.

    Last week the company owned by Octopus Investments said it had "an obligation to its investors to pursue all avenues to ensure that the ticket purchase agreement it entered into with the club is honoured, and we are committed to going to the lengths necessary to ensure that the future of the club is preserved and its agreement with Ticketus fulfilled".

    No legal action has been initiated by the administrators as of yet, while they have previously stated that Mr Whyte’s secured creditor status has "no value" as the owner does not appear to have invested any money in the club.

    Five-way battle
    Both Ticketus and the administrators are involved in the five-way court battle over £3.6m that was seized from the account of Collyer Bristow, Mr Whyte's lawyers who brokered the takeover deal.
    Two of the companies also laying claim to the cash, Merchant Turnaround and Jerome Group Pension Fund, are linked to Mr Whyte. The case is scheduled to call for a four-day sitting at the High Court in London on March 30. Mr Whyte’s secured creditor status relates to his floating charge over the assets of Rangers as a result of wiping their bank debt using the Ticketus money.

    Last month the owner, who has not returned to Ibrox since administrators were appointed more than three weeks ago, claimed that he is "personally on the line for £27.5m in guarantees and cash" in relation to his dealings at Rangers, including the Ticketus deal.

    He also said in a statement that the sale of future season tickets to Ticketus at a reduced price was "without any shadow of a doubt, the best deal for Rangers."

    http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-ce...ading-for-battle-over-24m-season-ticket-deal/
     
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  2. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    Wei look devs rehashed same old **** again.

    Weeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiii boys
     
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  3. RebelBhoy

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    Don't spoil it Dev.

    Tom english tweeted today that there is good news for Rangers fans, the ticketus deal is about to unravel.....

    That is right bares. It can only be good<ok>
     
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  4. Go Go Yellowscreen

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    Why can't Rangers just die with dignity?
     
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  5. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Seems to be continuing confusion (on my part at the very least) as to who struck the deal. Was it Whyte, who then used the money to pay off Lloyds and half inched the rest, or did "Rangers FC PLC" strike the deal?
     
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  6. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Whyte is a genius.

    You heard it here first.
     
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  7. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    We will never die.
     
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  8. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Dying is never dignified, soldier. You'll know that when your time comes.
     
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  9. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    Rebel be quiet.
     
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  10. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    He's going to have to rebel against that.
     
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  11. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    Listen Gammy, just let the tims **** each other as if they are at a kids b/day party, we don't do walking away.

    No Surrender

    WATP

    GSTQ

    VIASP
     
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  12. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Ah'll gammy you ya ****. No. Wait. I won't gammy ye. Let's just forget I said that and move on shall we?
     
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  13. Barrie Lochrie

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    Nobody will ever know our sordid little secret <torbet>

    <whistle>
     
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  14. RebelBhoy

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    what's the hurry?
     
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  15. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Nobody knows?
     
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  16. Barrie Lochrie

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    Don't think so, ask around though.
     
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  17. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Don't quite get why he thinks this. If Ticketus actually bought the season tickets then surely they are theirs to sell and the only difficulty that would arise for Ticketus would be if liquidation occurred - in which case Mr Whyte's alleged 'guarantees' would be called in?
     
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  19. AP: Password Mong

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    I'm bored to **** of the whole "Rangers in administration" drama. I was hoping for "24" but it's all a bit "Downton Abbey".
     
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  20. Barrie Lochrie

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