Sorry I should have made it clear my point was aimed at earlier posters implying that because he was there he has a better understanding of the situation.
Carl,Glen as a 'black' Liverpool player(and friend of Suarez)is as entitled to his opinion on the subject as you y/n?
Fair point. To be fair to Johnson, he was asked about the incident so it wasn't him going straight to the media. At the end of the day, the media run this country. They're the ones that keep bringing this up and blowing things out of proportion. Journalism is probably at it's lowest at the minute - I hope the Leveson enquiry exposes everything and brings them down.
I understand that racism is a sensitive issue- obviously more so if you are an actual or even potential victim of it. I can see how your loyalties are divided, but the club's argument has always been not that they were defending racism, but someone who was wrongly accused of it, and I feel that that is a legitimate stance to take. It has been lifted out of context by the media in an attempt to sensationalize the issue because that's what they feed off. I have friends of various nationalities and ethnic backgrounds, I have family members of African and Brazilian origin. To me where they come from has always been irrelevant and I don't even think about these things except when they're brought up by situations like this. I think Suarez was made a scapegoat and I resent it if people accuse me of being racist because I'm only looking for justice for everyone. However, I agree that nothing we say now can change it- and I think the hacks are just looking to keep it alive so they can sell more papers.
I don't believe this story it's from the Daily Fail is is most likely all made up......that's the usual Liverpool fans view.What changed?
It's an interview, it's pretty hard to fabricate. It's not like one of their usual source-less stirring articles
So, having had a reasonable discussion on the matter amongst ourselves- we're dragged back into the gutter by yet another puerile attempt to cause trouble. Grow up.
Yeah your right,theres more chance of a bulldog called rosie opening an offshore bank account than there is of JT saying something racist.
I read the article in a slightly different way. Yeah I winced at his views being aired over the actual incident because I knew what the response would be. Im glad I heard his views as a Black man on how HE was treated during the saga as I thought about it at the time. He was accused of betraying his "people" of being an uncle Tom. I believe he has as much right to air his views as a black man on the issue of racism. His intelligent points regarding how it's is in fact racist of others to expect him to react or act in a certain manner purely BECAUSE he is black was important. It shows the insidious nature of the various PC brigade in their "with us or against us "mentality: a position that allows men like mugabee to stay in power because South Africa don't want to be seen to move against a fellow blackman that ousted white imperial rule! To hell with the thousands of black men, women & children he's murdered because, well he's not white & doing it! the like of Johnson who has a day in day out working relationship with a man decided he was in a better position to judge his character than the media or ex nobodies who's opinion only carried weight because of the colour of their skin & it suites the agenda at the time. Yes it stirs it up again which is unwanted but Johnson has a right to defend himself against what he perceives as racist attitudes towards himself as much as Evra did; since perception appeared to be important at the time according to all the accusers.
I am a grown up and I can judge for myself about the context and when people are being prejudiced or just being misinterpreted. Johnson is in a very delicate position as the only black player in the first team squad. Believe me I know. The are things happening and being said in so called jest which you don't like but you have to keep your mouth shut in case you are being accused of being oversensitive or having a big chip on the shoulder. What he says will have more impact because he is black. I do not blame him for doing the interview or for saying the things he says. However he nor anyone else will be reluctant to go against his employers or his boss. I can also understand why other black people are annoyed with him. All this argument about Suarez's words was depressing. There has a lot being said which absolute nonsense. The bit about his wife or relatives calling him a n**** means it cannot be racist shows such lack of understanding of racial issues. When my wife calls me 'my n****' she does not want to abuse me or denigrate my being. When the BNP shouts this to me across the road, they are trying to demean me and belittle me because of my colour. When Suarez did that in an argument, the word CANNOT be friendly and was quite rightly judged to be racist. In my view there was nothing for the club to defend. We just need to put this terrible episode behind us.
Of course carl,but GJ was talking about the non handshake not racism,it was Paul McGrath and the 'rugby geezer' that widened the discussion to a racial level. Just because GJ disagrees with Evra's antics in handshakegate does'nt make him an 'Uncle Tom' as he was called,it makes him a human being with an opinion like the rest of us.
Sound carl. Glen chose to put himself in a delicate position because he wanted to say what was in his heart,strange really that he would then be racially abused a 'rugby geezer' who believes the GJ sided with a racist.
Glen Johnson have his own mind and brain...being a black man makes the whole thing interesting.He trains plays and socialise with Suarez. If you think he said what he said to help Suarez you are wrong.In the eyes of United players and supporters alike Evra can never do anything wrong which is not so.!
If you really think United fans think Evra can do no wrong SD then I'd suggest that you don't know many (if any ) United fans. Most of us know he is a little bastard
