People have been telling us the exact same thing for over a year now. Jobs have come up, Lambert has been wanted, and Lambert has said not interested. He has made it perfectly clear he's not remotely interested in managing in Scotland, so that rules Celtic out, and while Everton and Villa are bigger clubs than us, they are in financial difficulties at the moment, so a move to them would be not much more than a sideways move. As for Newcastle, I don't see Pardew leaving anytime soon, do you? Lambert has total free reign at Norwich, and knows that every single Norwich fan. and I mean every single one, worships the ground he walks on. He is going to really struggle to find this at other clubs, and while we expect him to leave eventually, I don't see him leaving inside the next 3 years. When he does go, I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if he went to a German club, with Dortmund being the obvious choice. If we have 3 very successful years with Lambert at the helm and he gets us European football, only then will we need to worry about him going to a massive club in England, as a couple of promotions and 2 or 3 mid-table Premier League finishes will not be good enough for Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs or Liverpool.
You don't deny my point that you sucess is largely reliant on one man staying in position. Anything can happen in football. Lambert's stock is higher now than it has ever been. Mcleigsh days are numbered at Villa. Lerner will spend cash if he trust the manager. £24 million on Darren Bent for Houllier and numerous big money signings until O'Neil losy his trust by through buys like £8 million on Curtis Davies. He might decided to trust someone as shrewd as Lambert on give him a bit of cash. Arry to England and a big promotion for Lambert. Or Moyes leaves and Lambert to Everton. Having seen their side last week that is definietely more than a sideways move. Loads of permutations that could feasibly lead to Lambert going in the summer. Not so stable a position for Norwich after all then. Norwich does look like a side very open to second season syndrome to me
I wouldn't say we are totally reliant on Lambert - McNally (our chief exec) yes, but not Lambert. We will get a suitable replacement, and we certainly won't chuck millions at a manager who has very little loyalty and will be off as soon as a bigger job comes along. Lambert will not leave this Summer, especially to Spurs. It has been widely reported that Villa and Everton have no money available to spend on players - Lambert will not like this, and you have totally ignored my point about Lambert having free reign and being worshiped. He won't get that at any of the three clubs you mention. I have no problems with QPR at all, apart from I wouldn't want my club to do things the way you are. However, I sense some hostility in your posts, so just for you I will say that, it looks like we will have a chance to be open to second season syndrome......
Thats what I think as well. Arent they looking to change owners soon too? We now have a new owner and new manager and if we survive this season, we are in a much stronger position than them. Even if we go down, Im sure we will be in a stronger position long term.
No, we aren't looking to change owners. If you go down, do you honestly think you will be in a stronger position long term? Would Hughes leave, and what about Cisse, Zamora, Barton, SWP etc.... would they want to play Championship football? The thing you have to remember is, if you go down, whoever is manager and whatever players are remaining, they will be under so much pressure to get promoted at the first attempt because of the money. If you don't, you may find yourself in a little bit of trouble. For the record, I think you will have enough quality to stay up, but only just.
It would do us a favour if SWP and Barton left. You wont see many fans wanting them to stay, they have been awful.
don't know where you heard this but no change of owners is in the pipeline. i can honestly say that if it weren't for lambert we'd probably still be in league one or maybe even worse! the main man behind our success has been the CEO david mcnally who brought lambert in and has transformed the club from top to bottom. he is the brains behind the whole operation. lose lambert and we'd struggle to stay up. lose mcnally and we'd struggle to survive as a club. 2nd season syndrome is a possibility of course, as it is with any promoted club and swansea may equally struggle but we both have good managers who have the potential to keep us up again. survival is all that matters to any of us at the moment and the same will apply next time too. its a tough league to maintain standards in but we have given ourselves a great base on which to build over the summer and even if we were relegated, it has been factored into the reckoning by our board so it wouldn't devastate the whole club like it did 6 years ago
You are only 1 thing away from a possible freefall, so much is dependant on your manager, the manager isnt that important to us. No one is apart from Fernandes and Mittal. We are in safe hands as long as we have them.
so you are two people away from freefall..? every club in the country is relatively close to things going badly wrong! we are no different to any number of clubs. but lambert has built a very good, young team (youngest in the premier league) which all have potential to improve, all cost low amounts and all have ability so as long as we got in another decent manager then although we may not do quite as well, we could maintain where we are at. we are not a club trying to run. we are pacing ourselves and lambert has stated he is a part of that. he won't be here forever but equally its highly unlikely he'll leave in the summer.
Norwich fans do wind me up. They have done since the days when we had to play you every flipping boxing day. They have grandiose views of their club, probably brought on by living in a bubble with no local competition. The fact that you see move’s to Villa and Everton as ‘sideways’ moves for Lambert shows as that you fit into that bracket as well. I ignored your ‘point’ Rud about being worshipped and given free reign anywhere else because its absolute garbage and completely irrelevant. Clubs mentioned like Villa and Everton would give him equal amount of power and after a while fans would worship him equally if he performed well. Lambert must have ambition and because of that he will move on, and I would expect this to happen in the short to medium term. Martinez is a good example of why you should get out of an overachieving club with little spending power when a good opportunity comes up. The point you keep on missing is that I am not making any concrete predictions about where Lambert will go. All I am doing is speculating to point out is that there are many feasible ways in which he would go. On paper you have overachieved this year and IF Lambert does go in the next year or two you will be in big trouble. Is a real chance Rangers will get relegated this year and zero chance that Norwich will but if you walked in to a bookies today and were able to place a bet on who will be in a higher division/better place in five years time the odds would be heavily in our favour. If we do get relegated we will have to sell players who won’t wont to play at that level but some will stay and then we will sign other players like West Ham have done. A good example would be a Snodgrass or Jordan Rhodes
If I would have to say who would freefall between our respective clubs, it would have to be QPR. Delia and Michael Wynn-Jones are Norwich supporters, while Fernandes supports West Ham, and while your owners have more money than ours, surely they don't have their hearts in it like ours do. I don't see any of Fernandes' businesses getting much out of Championship football advertising and we all know that is a major contributing factor behind his purchase.
Any club is if the owner withdraws funding. You are 1 person away from freefall if either your manager or owner leave. However our owners have stated they are staying even if we go down.
Well where do I begin. In normal circumstances Everton and Villa are of course more than a sideways step - but as I've said they are in a worse financial state than us and we are likely to be competing with them for players signatures this Summer. Lambert simply put, would get nowhere near as much free reign at any of the clubs you've stated. While there would be far more pressure put on him by their fans if they have a bad run. I have said he will move on, and probably inside 5 years. What gives you the right to say we will be in big trouble if Lambert leaves? How do you know this? We are building a team slowly and are well ahead of our plans, and we are certainly not spending beyond our means. As for your bet, if you fancy throwing money away, don't give it to the bookies, give it to me. Rhodes and Snodgrass will go to Premier League teams this Summer, if they move at all.
your owners may very well have said that but do you know them personally? anything can happen, thats all i'm saying we aren't in the same situation as qpr. we have less pressure on us because our project is long term - 7 years - and maybe thats why we are thriving because everything is calculated. we aren't taking risks which could conceivably bite us on the backside in years to follow. qpr have been bigged up by the media which is not your fault, and unfortunately because it hasn't quite worked for any manner of reasons it seems more chaotic than it really is. in reality, qpr are probably in the position most people should have predicted as best result - above the drop zone - due to your ridiculous previous owners blowing the best part of your summer. you still have every chance of survival though and that will help enormously but you are slightly foolish if you think that everything will be rosy if you do go down. hopefully you'll be fine and stay up - you've got every chance, and we shall try and beat wigan on saturday and that will help you guys out, as well as ourselves!
Oh great, now I will be wanting Norwich to win now you reminded me of that. Seeing as they only took over last summer, I dont see them selling this summer at a huge loss when a new training ground, academy and stadium are being built.
Maybe one or at a push two players would get in the Everton team. You would have to sign about 9 quality premiership players before you started to catch up with a side like that. One season in the prem does not put you on a par with a side like that. You will be in big trouble because there aren’t many managers who can take what is essentially a championship team and get them to mid table safety. A sign of the weakness of your side is I can’t see any prem sides actually wanting to sign your players and put them into their starting 11. Maybe Pilkington, maybe Morrison. I believe Fernandes is hear for the long haul and everything I have seen from him and when I have met him points to that. Luckily for us though to take us full circle and back to the Four Year Plan even you must now realise that our 33% shareholder Bhatia/Mittal are pretty keen to increase their stake in the club and they do support QPR. And they’re not short of a quid or two. Now I’m off to the pub and this is pretty pointless you keep on miss understanding fairly simple points. Snodgrass and Rhodes were just examples of realistic options. Again I was speculating for the sake of demonstrating a point.
And I said that they were not realistic targets. Opinions hey, who'd have 'em. Look, Lambert is a very good manager, there is no doubting that, but I don't think for one second he is the only manager out there that could stabilize or even improve on the position we find ourselves in now.
we'll try and do you a favour on saturday. not to mention that we could do with at least 1 more win to be safe! don't forget, they haven't started building a new stadium yet. its just words at the moment but having watched the film, so long as that bhatia guy is there you should be in good hands. i won't get onto fernandes or we'll fall out again!!
this. i live in norfolk and have done for many years and can honestly say that the majority of their fans (mates included) are completely deluded. they're always 'unlucky' when they've lost and 'should have won' when they get a point. i only dislike utd more. highlighted in both our fixtures this season when the R's were 'dominated' and an 'easy 6pts'. not from the games i saw.
a qpr friend of mine told me that they would be in the top four this season. that is deluded. some people are
