The FA have to get their house in order in regards to what is acceptable as it makes certain other highlighted cases simply look like trial by media. For example both the Suarez and Ferdinand cases there was a public outcry about how bad it was so the FA acted and acted harshly. However the FA just dished out some little fines in the cases on homophobia ? how can they do that ? Possibly as there was no public outcry or trial by media. All they are achieving is making themselves look even more corrupt. Although I do wonder if the means of the abuse has any effect ( I'm not saying it should ) as the FA and alot of clubs are having problems with how to punish and control what players have put out over social networks. Could they just claim it was a false account or that there account was hacked ? (trying to get back on topic)
He admitted he made the remarks Eric,his biggest gripe is the size of his fine compared to others. If the FA think that making homophobic remarks is a lesser offence and less offensive and abusive than making racist remarks they should 'come out of the closet' and say so.
I completely agree. I do however also think the FA are adopting a trial by media approach to alot of cases.
They're in over their heads. The FA is a sporting administrative body, not a court. It can pronounce on rules and regulations of its own device but when it comes to the broader context of social acceptability they're just not qualified. If they want to play at being judge and jury, they need to completely revise their process and apply strict laws of fairness across the board, regardless of what the media and general public are crying out for.
Thing is saint if Suarez had made his remark about Evra on twitter would it have carried the same punishment as it eventually did? The twitter thing is surely a players right to use in his spare time,the police supposedly regularly check social media sites for malicious,threatening,homophobic,sectarian and racist attacks. So there were no coppers on internet duty when Macheda made his remark.
He would have got an even greater ban: the tribunal in its twisted logic stated they didn't believe Suarez was racist just attempting to upset Evra. If he done it in a tweet, this couldn't be used as an excuse (still following twisted panel logic) and he could have been considered a racist. As Eric states: it's all about consistency: and the fact that Blatter hasn't made a statement suggesting they should just kiss & give a reach around in the event of homophobic abuse. if it's purely on media pressure, you might as well just run an x factor style poll on guilt or innocence. As I stated through the Suarez case, the FA should not handle any offence that is deemed illegal in society: report it to the police and let them handle it: either the evidence is there or not.
You seem to be banding yourself about on LFC threads Rob, you bored with no action on the Leeds forum - Why not use this time for something useful like a little bit of self assessment...May make life a little easier for you if you learn your place
Then, if found guilty, few would dispute the verdict, and the FA could justifiably add their own footballing sanctions to the sentence, for bringing the game into disrepute. I said from the beginning I don't think they're qualified to make judgements of this sort. They're just creating more problems than they're solving, and aggravating the sense of injustice.
I think i agree with dirtyfrank to a point. the probelm as we all know with racism is £2,500 that terry will get is nothing.. rightly or worngly the suarez case (lets not go there) sends a clear message by football that it does'nt want it going on. I perosnally think the fans from ALL clubs (and there are arrests every year up and down the country) who ar arrested for shouting stuff ought to be named and shamed and banned form grounds somehow on top of police action
I agree with both. I wouldn't like it to be taken out of the FAs hands, I'd simply like the FA to make the lines clearer and be ALOT more consistant
I'll add to that, I honestly think if it's left to the courts to find guilt and it is proven; then by all means the FA should hand out even sterner additional penalties: year bans at least: at the end of the day if you or I were convicted in a court of racism or homophobia conducted at work or in such a public way that it brings our employer bad publicity, we'd be sacked. THAT would show the same fairness & rights to players that we have & the same expectations to follow the law & punishment if we break it. Whats that called?: oh yes, equality! It would also show that the FA's drives/initiatives have actual meaning & are not gimmicks to pacify the pressure group of the day.
I have to say that I completely agree with this. While I'm here I just want to apologise for the man utd directed barb at the end of my OP. It wasn't needed and didn't strengthen my point
But it was relevant within the confines of your argument for equality in FA punishment on their war against racism and​ homophobia.
Didn't Kolo Toure get the same ban as Ferdinand for the same thing? it'll be interesting to see what punishment terry gets.
