It could so easily have been us! http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter...ittle-prayer-of-thanks-for-those-at-the-top/?
Looks like you can now include Port Vale in the list of casualties too, Dave. The future doesn't look too healthy for them, either!
i was going to write an article about this but much of what i was going to say has been talked about in the above link! still might write it later but the gist of it was going to be how we should thank our lucky stars we have delia and michael who along now with mcnally have always had the best interests of the club at heart, even if sometimes delia and michael have got things wrong in the past.
It's very sad for their supporters, but at the end of the day why should a football club be any different to any other business? They have debts, massive debts, and they should be paid in full or just like any other business wound up and have to start again. Pompey have IMO 'cheated' their way to Premier League football and an FA Cup win in the past by buying and paying players whom they could not afford ! As colu_mike would say; FACT !
One of the Golds was on Sky blaming HMRC for the current mess within football. Because they have allowed clubs to accumulate the debt of a tax bill they have got further into debt was his reasoning. I liken it to theft really. Clubs take tax from their employees and the VAT on souvenirs etc and they keep it. And when the tax man asks for it, they haven't got it because they are paying players £35K a week and haven't theincome to do so. My wife is self employed and pays her tax at the end of each January or she gets fined. My employer deucts tax from my income each month and passes it on. Football clubs seem to think they have a divine right to exist. Genuine supporters do things like fund raising and passing the hat round while CEO's and directors give people like 'Arry millions of pounds they don't have. 'Arry ****s off when he gets a better offer, the owners realise they've been had and try and sell the club. Some egotistical fool then buys said club. Trouble is Pompey have run out of those. And Kickitoff is dead right. They have cheated their way to any success that came their way.
its the owners of west ham who are currently playing god with the club they support! they spend more on wages than most premier league clubs and if they don't go up they will be in big trouble. they've gambled and if it does go wrong its their fault, not HMRC who in all honesty have been way, way too feeble up until now with football clubs
Nobody likes to hear it, and for the sake of football fans I don't like to say it but a high profile football team needs to go bust. There needs to be an accountability amongst our sport that if the clubs are going to live and run themselves as a business then they must die as businesses. Currently between Pompey and rangers about a quarter of a billion is owe to creditors, and about £80 million is owed in tax. That's should be our money, paying for health care or the armed forces. One of the reasons a big football club hasn't been wound up yet is they have no value as a sum of their assets. All they are is a set of employees who will leave and an office that nobody else can use but planning restrictions means it can't bee replaced with housing or retail. Football clubs shouldn't operate at a loss because of this lack of basic capital, and a club needs to die before its taken seriously.
I'm a bit torn on this one; Totally agree with what your saying (KIO) about Portsmouth Football club, they are nothing short of a disgrace, but once again it's the fans that suffer! I don't doubt that Portsmouth will be revived in some shape or form, but what about the Port Vale's? Football needs these lower league clubs, the same as it needs Conference and village football, football wouldn't exist without them! Where would we get our next Grant Holt if they weren't there? I was never a great fan of the Premiership, it seemed elitest and still does to the greater degree, but we are in it and I'm loving it. It the distrubution of wealth that bothers me more and more, the problems at Port Vale could probably be eradicated by one weeks wage's of a top Premiership player, it just doesn't seem right. Delia saved us, and I will forever be in total adoration of her and what she did, well most of it anyway. Someone mentioned West Ham.....................I ****ing hate West Ham. That is all. ILD OTBC
Odd question I know, but how will this new ruling affect things next season. I think the football league sides will only be allowed to spend a fixed percentage of their turnover on wages and transfers, but I don't know the % or when/if Premier League clubs will have to live by the same ruling. Also, what happens when a club oversteps the new financial mark, for example? A fine, point deduction, transfer embargo...? Thanks in advance.
Someone mentioned West Ham.....................I ****ing hate West Ham. That is all. ILD OTBC Couldn't agree more there ILD
good post ILD. i think many are slightly torn on the issue. nobody wants to see a club go to the wall but you do get the feeling that this needs to happen now more than ever. pompey might just be big enough for it to have a major effect. people forget that liverpool were only a few days away from administration until the latest american rescued them. if liverpool had gone bust then the ramifications would have been enormous. if port vale go under many won't even notice. how sad is that...?
The prem will have the financial fair play rule the punishment of which is exclusion from Europe, rather toothless rule if you ask me. Won't be a deterrent to a club like wolves or blackburn who just want to stay in the league. And it's very for a certain sheik/oligarch to set themselves up a company and use that to strike a massive sponsorship deal. It will always be possible to pour money into the top of football, because FIFA are never going to stop it.
just wait till you see how our lovely neighbours get round the fair play rules. i'm in no doubt that their idiotic attempt at a humorous 'banner' at the amex the other day will come back to bite as their owner renames portaloo road to the marcus evans stadium for a substantial seven-figure sum
Basically you can't stop people giving clubs money, it just won't work. I think a FIFA wide salary cap per club, as per several American sports. Would do the sport a massive amount of good.
..........it's been mentioned on pompys board that they should approach west ham to bail them out as if they fold the hammers will lose six points and drop out of the top two and possibly miss promotion. i can imagine w.h. giving this idea serious consideration given the rewards for reaching the promised land. then they will take tevez on loan illegally and expect to get away with it. after all brooking is a bigwig in the f.a. so will be able to sweep it under the carpet.again.
Another thought would be that we could let big clubs buy smaller clubs to run as their reserves. Imagine say we bought Luton and sent them some of our academy players who we could call up and send back down as needed, this should benefit everyone. There would need to be rules in place such as only players under 21 can move freely between two clubs.
The FA Cup was, without a doubt, won on the back of buying and paying players the club could not afford so you can concievably say that that was "cheating" if you are so inclinded however the 2002/2003 season winning the old First Division was not. During that season the club operated within its means so you can hardly say that Pompey "cheated" its way to Premier League football, you could argue that about maintaining Premier League football but not prior to the 2006 takeover by Gaydamak.
pompey spent big on players such as merson and sheringham though during that promotion season did they not? they won't have been on 'reasonable wages'... pompey have been run somewhere between badly and appallingly for a decade now.
Ah, so the Rodent sort of pre-empted this when he kindly loaned them Mickey Spillane and Chris Martin for a season. He was clearly a soothsayer
