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Parker to Captain England

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by SpursDisciple, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. Arsenal4life

    Arsenal4life Well-Known Member

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    I know. He is a great manager. Ignore the spuds.
     
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  2. Arsenal4life

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    Bad organisation? Did the Sun or the Mail tell you that <doh>
     
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    Holland walked around and england tried hard and yet still couldnt win <doh>
     
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  4. Maverick

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    One assumes you're struggling with the phrase "live with it" which, if it is the case, bemuses me as none of those words has more than 1 syllable.
     
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  5. Arsenal4life

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    Good football is important for club sides. For international sides less so. You dont see them as often. And I defy anyone to play good football with england. They cant pass so thats that.

    Capello is completely world class manager. In england we love writing them off. The papers say he is a bad manager so all the spuds/spanner/chavs toe the line and decide he is terrible. Cos the tabloids say so!!!

    Even if he lost every game with england it wouldnt make him a bad boss. He has proven how world class he is over many many years.
     
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  6. Maverick

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    There are some bemoaning the fact that Mourinho's teams play unattractive football and isn't a "Spurs type" manager. As far as I am concerned I would gladly swap free-flowing, attractive and entertaining football that wins eff all for boring boring football that wins us a few league titles, a CL and a couple of FA cups.
     
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  7. Sanj

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    It was a bad call, hence I am bringing it up. Not sure why you care so much. Maybe you should follow your own advice. I think it was a bad call and that's my view, so 'live with it'.
     
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  8. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Totally disagree. I'll support Tottenham regardless but I like to watch football I enjoy week in week out rather than a few extra trophies with a team that would go back on everything Bill Nicholson believed in.
     
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  9. Maverick

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    How can you justify saying that the English press are xenophobic?

    They lauded Mourinho, they lauded Wenger, they laud Ferguson, they laud Dulglish, they laud Van Persie, they laud Mancini, they laud countless foreigners playing in England, hardly indicative of being xenophobic.

    The truth is that people just didn't like Capello and he did little to try to improve people's opinions of him. Oh; under him England won eff all too.
     
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  10. Arsenal4life

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    Agreed on fabio. Its as boring as watching paint dry to be honest. Any new manager gets bigged up and then they "fail" (because the players are a million miles behind the likes of xavi, messi, iniesta, sneijder, rvp, ozil, lavezzi, cavani, etc.) and the media blame it on the manager and pick meaningless holes in his tactics.

    And yes football is a results business. But first and foremost it is an entertainment business. Look at Alec Mcleish. He already ruined 1 club with boring football and now he is ruining villa. They dont get fans in anymore...because who is going to pay to watch that rubbish when tickets are quite expensive and people have no jobs, no pay rises and inflation is severe.
     
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  11. Arsenal4life

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    Not really. The tactics might of been good but when the likes of rooney couldnt control the ball, terry couldnt do anything at the back and the keepers were making gas what can he do?
     
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  12. Maverick

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    Disagreeing is good - however I didn't say I'd enjoy Mourinho style football.

    Spurs have been the great under-achievers for too long and we, the club and the fans, deserve some success. Success breeds success, it also increase revenue. We are building a new stadium that has to be paid for, some success will bring an increase in revenue (even if it be it from plastics ~ let's take every penny from them) and assure a positive future for the club.
     
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  13. Sanj

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    Real Madrid this season under Jose have been a joy to watch. Deadly on the counter with quick one touch passing and have destroyed so many teams with their pace and passing. Similar to Spurs, but they do it at a higher level with better players. Check out the goal against Ajax in Champions League. Pretty much sums up their style under him.
     
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  14. notsosmartspur

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    No disagreement from me, but my point was they had the ball! from the kick off imo he should yelling and encouraging one last push to chase that ball down and keep it, corner flags, all that ****, it just didn't happen, and worse still, we got pulled all out shape, 2 banks of 4 for 2 minutes shouldn't be too difficult.

    At times it might not make a blind a bit of difference, but sometimes it does. One thing I will guarantee, if you don't at all, it'll never make a difference.
     
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  15. Arsenal4life

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    But there is only so much you can do at international level. In the end international football (much more than club football) just comes down to who your players are. It is the purest form of the game that exists today. The tactics are more broad brush strokes. Thats why top countries often just go for young inpriing figures rather than top managers. I think the FA missed the memo though....

    At club level you can work with the players every day and can build a side which doesnt have holes. At international level you cant do that. In the end you have to just send them out there and hope they are better than the opposition.
     
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  16. Arsenal4life

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    Yup. The english backbone thing annoys me. Thats why they wanted us to sign cahill. I reackon we could have xavi and iniesta in the midfield and they would still say we needed scott parker <doh>
     
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  17. I think you're all being too harsh on tonight's performance.

    We all scream about England managers not having the balls to try new players, but when they do and we lose, you jumped all over them and the team.

    Let's put this all into perspective. We have a new, untried manager, playing a new-look untried squad, with no Rooney, no Fat Frank, no Terry, Rio or Cashley, and only a brief cameo from Gerrard; and they were up against a very experienced Holland side. Sure, we made mistakes and we lost, but was winning really the point of tonight's team selection? Yeah, it would have been great to win the game, but did any of us really expect we would? What would we have learned, had Pearce played the same old tired players and we managed to hold Holland to a 0-0 draw?

    I really cannot believe how some of you carry on. How can we be overly critical of Parker, when he's playing with a completely new set of players around him?

    I think the guys put in a creditable performance. For every mistake made there was something positive. Wellbeck looks like an exciting prospect, being the player that Heskey should have been. Young looked superb, as did Sturridge. Our defence didn't have the best of games, but they will all have learned something from tonight's game, as I am sure Pearce will have, too.

    Will Scotty remain captain? Who knows, but I think it was brave of Pearce to give him a go, to see how he got on. Gerrard won't be there forever, nor will Terry, and a prudent manager will look for options to cover himself. I don't think either Pearce or the boys disgraced themselves, tonight.
     
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  18. Maverick

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    You chose to ignore all of the non goon examples I gave and I'm sure that you have your reasons, so how about sharing them with us?

    Remember that this is a thread about Parker and not your club ~ flattered that you're here though.
     
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  19. Maverick

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    Well said and all so true <applause>
     
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  20. No Kane No Gain

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    I didn't say you did say you'd enjoy it, just that I'd rather watch football I enjoy, regularly than watch my team lift a trophy. Both would be nice though :p



    On the subject of Mourinho's Madrid, they play far more enjoyable football than Barca for the most part but Mourinho will set his teams up to stifle and suffocate any football on the pitch when he's up against an equal or better team.
     
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