We all know there are as many formations as there are settings in FM 2012 to choose from but in the real world there are a few sides playing this 3-4-2-1 formation with some success. I was wondering how we could line up using this and thought this was interesting. ...................Reina .....Carragher Skertl Agger Johnson Gerrard Lucas Enrique ........Suarez..........Bellamy .................Carroll Now this is not a 4-3-3 nor a 3-5-2 rather it combines the two by allowing the playing of two creative players behind a single front man. It plays 3 cbs but relies more on the bank of 4 for both width in attack, and defensive cover out wide. I Think its got some potential for us as it does offer certain tactical advantages (quote bullet points for rhc) Gerrard can sit in and pass it about rather than try to cover gorund he no longer can. You get better quality players closer to Carroll With 3 defenders you should be able to cover the quick breaks that are dangerous so your attacking full backs can go forward more. It gives total creative freedom to suarez and bellamy to go do damage It can be very solid as the back of 4 can just sit and leave the front 3 to hit on the break. what are poples opinions on this type of european tactics
Bollox, the lazy bastard just needs to train harder FFS, he's only 32, not 64! It's not as if we are asking for blistering pace from him. Too many nights out with the Huyton lads, not enough training.
A point you mentioned was picked up by Rafa, he moved Gerrard from central midfield to a position as a second striker as he thought Gerrard lacked the discipline to play in a central two. I like the idea of a 4-5-1 which becomes 4-3-3 when in posession with the third advanced midfielder joining the attacks (Gerrard). Thus we always have a central two protecting (Lucas, Spearing). With current personal. ................Reina.............. Glen....Martin..Danny...Jose ...........Leiva....Jay.............. ..............Gerrard................ Suarez.....................Bellamy ................Carroll............... A little less emphasis on defending for Suarez on the right, so Lucas would have to move right to offer cover with Gerrard slotting back into centre mid when not in possesion.
A very attractive line up, doesn't work as well if you don't have the flair/quality up top as proved against Stoke. But with that set up you have Gerrard, Suarez, Bellamy who can all provide and score goals. Can see Carroll getting the best from that also.
I might just agree with you there noble... might just agree. baz, i do agree with you on gerrard's discipline but i think rafa stoked his ego and made him that was so its a two edged sword... i think he needs to find a position where he can play the last year sof his career that doesn't involve box to box running... thats DM or second striker IMO.
Its a nice idea but I feel it leaves carragher a little exposed if anyone with pace attacks down our right hand side.
Think it would end up 5-2-3. at times. Not a big fan of wing backs, prefer full backs that push on when the chance presents itself. Better of with a defensive mid, better at passing and can track strikers that drop deep looking for space
I think it is best used against the better teams. But when we are against teams that don't spend a lot of time in our half then why play 3 at the back when you can just have 2 whilst everyone else pushes up.
Try not to look at it with the 5 back format but with the 3 and the 2 outsides can kind of shift in for 4 in the back or 5 when needed. basically look at Napoli ( who is the team I immediately think of with 3-4-2-1) They have the outside backs in maggio and zuniga the holders in Inler and gargano and the flair of hamsik and lavezzi who sit off of Cavani. Hamsik and Lavezzi can also roam free knowing they have cover and that would suit the likes of bellers and Suarez tremendously, even Maxi or Gerrard. We have the outside backs for this and the CB's, without Lucas though that middle doesn't seem as strong, even with Gerrard there as you might want two players who can battle but pick a pass ( this years lucas, possibly Alonso type as well). BTW Mito, I ****ing love that formation in real life, so many options to play around with and personnel to shift.
I would have to mention england 1996... ok we were ****e but.... we played mcmanaman and anderton on the wings, it worked like this; seaman neville adam pearce mcmanaman ince southgate anderton sheringham gascoigne shearer it was ince who moan like a bitch about being prevented from roaming about to drop in to the back 4. It was weird but it worked. in our case i was wondering if you could have a sea change in full back mentality and not end up back in a back 5 all the time? I do think you guys are right and put eklly or caotes in there for carragher... I would expcet lucas to just sit and become an extra defender when required. playing say kelly skertl agger as a back 3 and you find agger can go wide left and kelly right if needed to cut soemthing off... it requires lucas to be a total sacrificer... napoli are the example i was also thinking of but didn't want to sound like i thought of it last night cos i've been seeing this more and more in europe. I just think its better than 4-3-3 at this point, 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 are all about mdifield dominance i nthe centre without the forward power or width to then exploit it. this 3-4-2-1 seems to put more creative players on the pitch and allows width but you drop a cm creator here.... or the hardest type of player to buy in other words.
