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So with the news that Alex Ferguson has been given a 5 game ban, being received in mainly a positive light, it got me thinking:

I agree that hounding a ref throughout a game should be cut down, it genuinely makes me cringe when you see Rooney screaming and swearing at a ref from the first minute. It used to be the captains or the midfield generals who would have a word with the ref but now even the youngsters (Rafael and Wilshere) are getting into trouble for their rants!

This needs to stop BUT on the other hand, respect isn't something that should be given regardless, it is something that should be earned....If the FA want people to respect referees then they have to stop treating them like china dolls, stop wrapping them in bubble wrap and let them take it on the chin when they make a mistake.

People say ref's have a stressful job and shouldn't have to justify their actions:
Bollocks - Doctors, policemen, soldiers, firefighters, these are stressful jobs. These are jobs in which life or death decisions have to be made in a split second. If they make a mistake they're hauled in front of a tribunal and made to state how and why they were wrong (and rightly so)

So why not referees, in an industry worth billions, how is it right that these people who can turn a whole game, even a whole season on it's head, should not be held accountable for their actions?

Human error is part and parcel of every day life. If a referee makes a mistake and holds their hands up and apologises then I'd certainly have far more respect for them than I do now!

 

managers should be able to say what they think about the refs without being punished
It is a complete joke
It is called expressing views like im doing now
They need to stop giving fines and touchline bans just becasue managers are expressing their own views which can alot of the time be true
It is a joke

 

I agree with that and do see the FA scared to censor their appointed refs due to their own Respect programme.

Human error is simply human nature. To err is to be human.

If the ref says he got it wrong; fair play.

If the ref gets it wrong consistently; the ref needs to be retrained.

 

Exactly!

 

Its all down to consistancy as well. One week a player can tackle unfairly get a yellow card then next week same type of challenge in a different game and the player just concedes a free kick

 

yeah but why cant the managers express their own opinions without being fined and banned for touch line

 

Ferguson doesn't criticise referees, he scapegoats them for his own team's shortcomings. It's about time something was done about it. And no, managers shouldn't be allowed to criticise referees. The reason Man U have got so many favourable decisions over the years is because refs know they'll get torn to shreds for ruling against them. The press criticise referees so they're not completely protected, but managers and players shouldn't be allowed to publicly criticise because it contaminates the game by affecting the ref's mindset when he next officiates a game.

 

You raise a good argument and part of me definitely agrees with you, there needs to be some form of protection so that, as you say, games are won on the field and not in the press conference room a week before.

BUT

I still maintain that referees need to be held accountable for their actions. If they make a mistake which costs millions of pounds, and for some players, their only chance of success/silverware, then they shouldn't be able to simply hide away behind a wall of FA hypocrisy!

 

I agree. But they still get slated by the press and the fans, there's no need for managers and players to get involved as well.

 

Ferguson stated: "You want a fair referee, or a strong referee anyway - and we didn't get that.".

He basically called the ref corrupt.

5 match ban.

 

from the bbc

"The reasons for the decision will be sent to Ferguson in the next 24 hours and he then has 48 hours to decide if he wants to appeal. This is why the sanction does not start until after Saturday's home league game against Bolton Wanderers."


if he does appeal, will this be classed as frivolous and recieve an extra match ban

 

To be fair he should have had a longer ban for his comments after they played Sunderland last year, when he focused on the ref's fitness rather than the fact he rested 7 players and underestimated Sunderland who had played very well.

 

im a referee myself yes its not the proper moeny games just local ones, but i give reasons for my decisions and the players respect that, if say penalty and they say what for and i say nothing, there going to think ive cheated, so why dont the referees in the premiership ect give reasons in public theyd gain respect as everyone has opinions and its the referees whos counts in the end. also i think fergie deserves it tbh though he critisies the referees if he loses its not just a one of and he usually gets away with it, when we would get fined instantly

 

Two matches of this ban are the suspended games from those comments.

Well done the FA. The game in question against Chelsea was a game lost by United, not the referee. The penalty was correct, and the argument that Luiz made 3 fouls therefore should be sent off is frankly stupid.

 

Fergie has done nothing wrong
Simple as

 

I'm aware of that, but he should have had longer for his comments after the Sunderland game. On the decision the penalty wasn't there was no contact between the 2 players, the 2 incidents with Luiz were bookings equaling a sending off, though however he's a lot more aggressive in the way he criticises referee's than other managers, also I did see him saying Rooney should have been sent off after his elbow on McCarthy a few days earlier.

 

Urge to abuse.... rising....

 

haha i dont mind! ill be honest the games where you get abuse are the more intresting ones theres always goign to be one team angry with most decisions so i just get on with it. although my sarcasm levels are slightly to high for local football...









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So out of curiosity, do you have a qualification in refereeing? What would you have to do to officiate a higher-level game, Northern League or higher?

 

Are you LOL
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