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FIFA 11 - Nile Ranger stats

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Heavy Metal Toon, Mar 16, 2011.

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  1. Gutierrez's Right Boot

    Gutierrez's Right Boot Well-Known Member

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  2. Geordie Gashead

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    As if I needed confirmation that you're a loser.
     
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  3. Jesus Was A Geordie

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    lol failed rep!
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Is he any good at flower arranging?

    Did you know that this skill is still highly sought after by Japanese men?
     
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  6. Tiggyrimana

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    simple solution - dont play Ranger hes **** on the game
     
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  7. Gutierrez's Right Boot

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    Shame i got neg rep on the fuel thread for no reason
     
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  8. Just because he hasn't scored the premier league doesn't mean he can't finish mate. He needs to calm his nerves a bit. I've seen some of his finishes for the reserves, and they were top quality.

    He's done everything but score, and he's only 19. His decision making will get better, but they've haven't been much of a problem if you ask me.

    p.s . Take into account he hasn't started a PL game yet!
     
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  9. Jesus Was A Geordie

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    Aye but by the very definition of the word finishing he is bad at it...The ultimate aim of football is to outscore the oponent, therefore the 'finish' is putting the ball in the back of the net, something he hasn't done! I'm not saying he doesn't have the attributes to get himself into goalscoring positions or even to score plenty in the future, but at the minute he has demonstrated poor finishing.

    Also, with regards to his decision making - he has now (in 3 games) gone on to shoot from narrow angles, missing the target my inches but without looking up to realise that in 2 of those instances there were players in better positions than him! (Lovenkrands for definite, then possibly Barton/Nolan in the other).

    I agree his decision making and finishing will improve, and you're right when you say he hasn't started any PL games and that will certainly have an impact. But at the end of the day you're giving him a rating on his current ability/performances, not his future potential ones!
     
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  10. Gutierrez's Right Boot

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    Couldnt this have gone on the gaming thread im sure its on thread directory
     
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  11. RyanNUFC

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    Eh? He falls over more than Shola.
     
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  12. You're making a claim on ignorance mate. He hasn't scored yet in the PL, that doesn't mean he's a bad finisher!!

    I've seen the quality of finishes he can perform, he's a class finisher. It's really Chris Hughton's fault for not playing him enough the championship. He should have been given time as soon as it looked like we were promoted.

    As soon as we are safe, i think we should start Nile Ranger every game, because once we are certain of staying up, the need to play old crock like Lover and Shola is gone. We have a great young prospect in Ranger, and he's done everything except score for us. Have you noticed the difference in our team when Ranger comes on? It's quite phenomenal really. The teams looks alot more dangerous with him in it, and he played a part in the come back against Arsenal.

    Back to the main point, i judge his finishing ability on the finishes i've witnessed from him, not the misses. Gutierrez' rating for crossing 79, because he can deliver a cracking ball. He doesn't do it often, but your rate a player based on what he's capable of. But the difference between Jonas and Ranger, is Ranger will more likely improve, where as Jonas probably won't. You have to rate someone on their potential ability, not their mistakes.

    And RyanNUFC - Yes Ranger's balance is good. He doesn't go down easily and can fight off bigger players. He should have had a pen against Spurs when his shirt was being pulled, but stayed on his feet and almost scored from a tight angle.
     
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    Finishing 70?! More like 17.
     
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  14. Idiot.
     
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  15. Geordie Gashead

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    <doh> So if I scored one goal in my career with the best finish ever but missed 1000, you'd give me a 99 rating?

    Of course you have to take into account his misses. <doh>

    Clueless.
     
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  16. TheMightyToon

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    <laugh> this.
     
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  17. Yeah, but it's not as if Ranger is 35 and at the end of his ****ing career is it? He's 19, and hasn't started a game yet!
    As i've said, he's done everything but score a goal, and his presence has lead to goals and chances.

    I've seen him play in the reserves, and i've seen the goals he's scored. He just needs a flukey goal to get his confidence up.
    He could have quite easily won us the Bolton match, but was about an inch offside. It was a good goal aswell.
     
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  18. Geordie Gashead

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    I don't care how old he is. It doesn't change the fact his finishing isn't that high AT THE MOMENT - which is what you base a player's stats on. I don't care if he hasn't started a game yet. Completely irrelevant. Has nothing to do with his finishing ability now.

    "That guy down the park's finishing is terrible"
    "Yes, but he hasn't played professional game yet and is only 18. I'll give him a 84 for finishing"

    Stats can change as the years go by.

    His presence has lead to goals and chances? So what? What the hell are rambling on about? That's not finishing.

    And I didn't realize you were playing Fifa 11 Reserves Edition. My bad.

    <doh>
     
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  19. Jesus Was A Geordie

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    Tash, your claim that I was making a claim in ignorance was a claim in ignorance in itself. You assumed (ignorantly) that I've not seen him score in the U18s/reserves/England U19s!

    I do see the point your making, but it is flawed. You can't give a player a rating on what he is capable of at his very best. On that basis Pancrate would be one of the best finishers we had last year, the fact is he hit one very good goal and then did nout.

    Their ratings should surely be based on their ability as it averages out over a season...
     
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  20. I'm saying that just because he hasn't scored, doesn't mean he hasn't had any effect. He's been brilliant.
    He can create chances for himself and frighten the **** out of oppositions defenses.

    The chances that he's had could have been finished off by another striker, but would another player have got into the positions Ranger manages to get himself into in the first place?
    It's Rangers strength and power that gets him into goal scoring positions, that's a start, he just needs confidence infront of goal to finish off the chances he makes for himself.

    No matter what level you're at, if you're 1v1 vs the keeper, your ability will allow you to score goals. The problem with Ranger is mental, not ability wise.
    He can finish well at reserve level, and he can do it at PL level, he just needs to get over the pressure when he's 1v1 vs the keeper, or has a guilt edged chance.
    When you're 1v1 vs keeper, it doesn't matter what level you're at. The only thing that changes really is do you have confidence, and are you in the right frame of mind.
     
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