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Is our ground to big for us?

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  1. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    I know this wont bring in 1000`s of fans, but the public transport is crap.

    Say a ticket is £28 they put buses on (not sure if they do this already but cant see it anywhere if they do, i think they used to), It costs £40 and you get a ticket for the match with it, so £12 for the bus direct to the stadium and back. If you get a season ticket, the bus is free (or a fiver)

    They could start off with 4 Buses the first week, then take stock of who used them, and adjust accordingly.

    1 location could be Alnwick then down the coast, through Ashington/Blyth etc etc
    1 location could be Carlisle picking up at Hexham etc
    Other could be York, picking up at Boro/Stockton/Peterlee etc etc.

    It wont fill the stadium, but will let those that want to go, that dont live in the area/cant drive, be able to get there and go.
     
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  2. Patthemackem

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    No but maybe we have to accept our fans are maybe not as passionate as we think they are, wen the mags had as great start their attendances rocketed, we are Europes form team and attendances aren't improving at all, it is a real concern
     
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    Deleted # Well-Known Member

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    That is the harsh truth <ok>
     
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  4. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    There is something called price elasticity of demand. That is the degree to which demand of a product is affected by changes in price. The product in this instance is matchday tickets. So as the price falls demand should rise.

    There is an equilibrium to be found and it is how pricing policies are arrived at. They assess by the elasticity of the product to what extent demand will rise for that fall in price. But say at $20 a ticket you have a demand of 15000 you get revenue of $300,000. You drop the price to $10 and get a demand of 25,000 you get a revenue of $250,000. SO you have substantially raised demand but lowered profitiability. The most profitable equilibrium is where the elasticity, price and demand curves meet. e.g. here you have a price of $15 and get a demand of 21,000 you gain a revenue of $315,000
     
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  5. connor wigham

    connor wigham Active Member

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    it might sound stupid but how about they lower the price of the food and drink on match day

    4.00 for a coffee is ridiculus and people cant afford it
     
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  6. cest

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    i think our ground is too big for us by about 5K. Next season i believe we will have slightly bigger atendences, the ecomonic times have taken alot of our crowd, but i think the MON factor will give everyone big anticipation for the beggining of next season.

    I think there was 2 major factors as to why the attendences was poor on saturday:

    1. The game was on tv.
    2. The season tickets holders arnt given a ticket for the f.a cup, so alot would have chosen to stay at home, save the money.
     
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  7. cest

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    it isnt £4 for a coffee.
     
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  8. The_Black_Cats

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    Not rocket science is it? The decision makers at Sunderland must focus on filling the stadium before setting the season and matchday ticket price next season. Once the stadium is full consider raising the prices the following season...

    We could fill a 75,000 seater stadium if we only charged £5 to get in... The SOL isn't too big. The tickets are overpriced.
     
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  9. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14367608

    According to that Blackburn and Newcastle have £10 tickets for adults, our cheapest is £25 (league obviously)

    Cheapest day out for

    Newcastle £17.50
    Sunderland £32.50

    Thats if you buy a Pie a Cuppa and a programme.
     
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  10. CyprusMackem

    CyprusMackem Active Member

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    Aye mate. Maybe I'm getting cynical in my old age but I'm getting sick of clubs charging the common man shed loads so they can spend £50 million on the likes of Torres. It's sick.
    Add to that the fact that clubs get the vast majority of their money from TV and sponsorship and you begin to realise they are playing us for fools. Worse, they are patronising us by saying we count as a extra man. Bollocks...The only thing clubs (ours included) care about is squeezing every penny they can out of overly loyal fans.
    I'll support SAFC till the day I die. I won't however line the pockets of millionaires at the expense of my kids and if that means we can't compete or MON would be shallow enough to **** off. So be it.
     
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  11. Chappaz

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    Why? Your club is running a business. It's about profitability. Why charge less money to the people dedicated to turn up at the existing prices just to try and attract more people but ultimately make less profit?

    It's naive to assume that 'filling the stadium' at whatever cost is the correct business priority.

    Absolute nonsense.

    You have to look at the mindset of people who attend. They have a certain urgency to watch the football, so they will devote almost an entire day towards it, including travel, travel expenses and food/drink. They're a certain dedicated type of fan, and I'm afraid this type of fan is highly unlikely to be swayed from attending the game to choosing not to attend the game because of a £10 difference in the ticket price. Perhaps a few hundred would, but it certainly doesn't account for almost 20,000 people.

    And what is this notion about the tickets being 'overpriced'? Market value decides itself. If you have to drop your ticket prices to a level far below other clubs to remove this 'overpriced' status, then one might argue that there's something wrong with your team's support.
     
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  12. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    ANSWER ......NO, folks are having a hard time financially. until players get paid less the crowds will fall away.
     
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  13. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    You are the complete ****wit arnt you? how do you make the ground fit the crowd? you being a rocket scientist should enlighten us uneducated folk. I wait with not too much baited breath.
     
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  14. 5 Goals 1 Hat Trick 11 Heroes-NUFC4LIFE

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    Exactly this.

    It's not overpriced , you just have too many supporters who are unwilling to pay the amount supporters of other clubs to pay.
     
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  15. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    to the 2 Newcastle fans on here, the BBC link, is it true, do you have tickets for £10 and if yes, how many and what parts of the ground?
     
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  16. cest

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    I think you have been a bit rash here, I didn't say we should make the ground fit the crowd, I said we had about 5 thousand too many seats. So how about reading my comment properly, it might stop you from tunnelling abuse via your keyboard at me next time. Oh, I wait with not too much baited breath.
     
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  17. Black Cat Kiwi

    Black Cat Kiwi Well-Known Member

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    The cheapest Serie A ticket for Inter is €22.
    They range from that to 26, 32, 39 all the way to the VIP @ €435 with "VIP tickets- Long side 1st tier red, between the penalty boxes – Allows access to Executive room with catering before, during & after the match"


    I'm going to see Inter - Catania up in the heavens @ €26 <laugh>
     
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  18. Blind Corner

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    Recession, what recession is this? I see no signs of a recession, all the young uns are walking around with their I Phones paying for contracts and paying exorbitant prices in the pubs and clubs, wearing designer clothes to go to the job centre, where is the recession, I think its a government plot, a con trick on a grand scale , along with the banks and big business men - the dumbing down of the masses, its happening all over, kids can't read and write but they can text. where will it all end ?

    Rant over, I'm saving up to go to Wembley.
     
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  19. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    to many false dawns i feel a run in europe could bring them back <bubbly>
     
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  20. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    I personally think a key problem for cup games, it is even worse for league cup games, is that many season ticket holders do not 'buy' their seat for cup games. So assume that all season ticket holders were there on Saturday plus the ones that buy tickets one by one as it were I wonder what the crowd would have been then?
     
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