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The Official Man Utd & Liverpool plus Chelsea, Everton and City Banter Thread!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by UIR - Kagawa Powa, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Heard the same thing when Chelsea were bought by Abramovich.

    If you think a club the size of Man Utd is simply going to completely decline and not be challenging for honours then you are really deluded.

    Just because Liverpool declined after a period of domination does not mean that Man Utd will inevitably do the same. It's not written in the stars or a law of physics for ****s sake. Plus Liverpool never really took advantage of having a large global fan base like Man Utd have.
     
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  2. Page_Moss_Kopite

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  3. Depay Sound

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  4. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    You have BIGGER DEBTS than Liverpool
     
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  5. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Stay on topic.

    After 20+ years without the title we're still on the rich list,still number 3 in the European elite league and still in the top 10 global brands.

    No matter how much you try and dismiss us we're still here Berb's.

    <laugh>
     
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  6. Depay Sound

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    I wasn't dismissing you. I was saying that Man Utd have taken advantage of their large global fan base more than Liverpool did.

    Man Utd aren't simply going to disappearing. They will be up there fighting for honours, even though they may go through a transition period when Sir Alex leaves.
     
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  7. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    These days football is as much corporate as football orientated so its not surprising that utd have cornered the market.
     
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  8. Foredeckdave

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    Nobody said that you would disappear. We are saying that you should remember that you last "transition period" lasted 20 years :smile:
     
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  9. Depay Sound

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    Which is why I can't see Man Utd just declining and disappearing. Football is different nowadays.

    P.S. Come on Stevenage!
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Money and success dont always go hand in hand.
     
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    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    It's not a question of you disappearing no one is suggesting that but whether you accept it or not united and its global fan base will suffer from the noisy neighbours more than any other team and couple that with the impending retirement of fungus then the decline is inevitable <ok>
     
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  12. Depay Sound

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    As PMK said above, money doesn't always guarantee success.

    Man Utd will still be up there challenging.
     
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  13. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    As in if Fergie is replaced by a Chequebook manager the money he spends might not bring the success.

    Thats why Big Sam is waiting in the wings.
     
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  14. Foredeckdave

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    I truly believe that this is a truism that United are going to learn painfully. For all their success both on and off the pitch, United have not maximised their corporate opportunities. Sure they have an income that means that they can service their debts and still retain profits. However, that debt is still there, In non-corporate terms they have been paying an interest only mortgage.

    If you look at every other corporate business around the world, they are all in the process of securing their futures by actively reducing their debts. Somehow United appear to think that they are the exception that proves the rule. Even when they did try and raise funds to pay off the debt, the offer was withdrawn in Singapore and no attempts appear to have been made to re-float it. This problem will come back to bite their bum!
     
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  15. Depay Sound

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    Our debts have reduced......
     
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  16. Depay Sound

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    And yet City are apparently guaranteed success because they have money :undecided:
     
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  17. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Well i'll take your word for it Dave with regards to United's ineptitude to take full advantage of their present financial muscle.

    But how quick will it take for it to 'come back and bite their bum'?

    Soon i hope.

    :smile:
     
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    They've got more money to waste than Utd have got to spend.
     
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  19. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    By how much and in what timescale - come on Berb - lets have some kind of business model from you.

    I'll start you off: 1+1=2
     
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  20. terrifictraore

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    Business model from berb <laugh> he is not even allowed to take a turn of running the school tuck shop!
     
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