Gary Johnson started at bristol city with 10 straight defeats? (as I remember?) Now with hindsight he was our best manager since "Alan Dicks" knee jerk fans were calling for his head then too! Perhaps some of us could allow DM a similar amount of leeway to do his work and not expect instant miracles. Does anybody really think replacing DM now would make this club look anything more than a complete ****in joke!! Its no wonder players and managers don't want to come here...
One for, you sound like a sensible man can I ask you the following? What have you got against Del? Who would you of had instead? You can only choose men who wanted to come here! Do you not believe that with this squad of players, they have been in free fall for years?
I have nothing against DM, if fact if you read my recsent quotes I've said I'm not calling for his head........IMO it's far too late for that......he needs to see out this season whatever happens. The board are to blame, it was a very big risk taking on some one with very little experience at this level. The seasons not over yet.....but if we go down then IMO the board would have failed and the risk would have back fired. How do I know what manager was interested in the job at the time??? Was DM until the board approched St Johnstone. With the right manager, yes I do believe we would have been ok.........but now we will never know.. The board now needs to back DM with what ever loans he needs to keep us in this league.
The biggest and most painful mistake GJ made was to not demand a serious investment in the club during the Jan 2008 transfer window. 3 or 4 million spent on a goalscorer, or an inspired loan from one of the big 5 would have turned 2 points clear with 6 games to go into automatic promotion. OK, we may have come straight back down (whose to know), but at least we would have shared the glory of the Man Us and Arsenals. And our national profile would have blossomed like Blackpool's did, which would have attracted better quality youngsters to the club. Its not like that investemnt would not have been repaid. West Ham and Southampton had the right idea, bring more talent into their clubs in January, and they will be playing with the best next season
Banksey there was many many who applied,that had the x factor not a un known from Scotland,How many of us had heard of him until he was linked with the job? The board took a cheap option once again,this i believe will bite us hard this season.
"Banksey there was many many who applied,that had the x factor" Who exactly had the X factor then? Mark Robins? Dave jones? The board paid compensation for a management team they targeted.. hardly a "cheap option" I ****in despair sometimes.. If I was Steve Lansdown I would say **** these idiots, I ain't throwing my money around for this lot to criticise everything we do, **** em!
Spot on..........The greatest chance of top flight football we'd had in more than a generation and we bought Dele Adebola and Nick Carle.....It wouldn't have mattered if we'd brought in a load of expensive loanees to get the promotion
Banksy, you have made statements as if they are facts. Certainly things were not rosy during the last weeks of GJs reign, but I can't see any improvement whatsoever. That statement about Lee is b@@@@ks too - Lee was part of our team when it was at its peak. He hasn't featured for a year and now we're cr@p - a no-brainer really. NO - not that he is brilliant - but he was NOT the major problem. We will go down unless we stop leaking goals. To do that we need a solid, dependable back 4 with a 'Shaun Taylor' type running the show. I love Louis - I really do, but, like me, he is a fading flower and we have no replacement (unless the Boro bloke fills the mould). If the opposition can't score then we are guaranteed a point a game at least - right now we have leaked 11 goals in 4 games - utterly dire. I am not fickle or stupid enough to call for a change of manager now, and I am sure he is wize enough to realise the seriousness of the situation for himself. The players need to realise that they will be in L1 next season unless they pull their fingers out and earn their Bentleys and posh houses. Put in a shift ffs you bunch of overpaid LOSERS.
"That statement about Lee is b@@@@ks too - Lee was part of our team when it was at its peak. He hasn't featured for a year and now we're cr@p - a no-brainer really. NO - not that he is brilliant - but he was NOT the major problem" No one said he was the major problem! I said he was part of a breakdown that started to occur with Gary Johnson. thats just my opinion but it is undoubtedly shared by the vast majority of City fans.. Any success we had at this time was despite him not because of him. Thats why none of the managers since GJ have picked him consistently. old ground and we have done it before... I wouldn't have picked him either. Now tell me the the points which weren't facts and clarify why?
Yes, the fools paid compensation for a management team they targeted.......a team that were not experienced at Premiership or Championship level..........a team from an average club in a poor league. You say what you think SL should say ****these idiots.........I'm not sure we are the idiots here. Please tell me, had you been one of the board, would you have gone to St Johnstone to get us out of the ****, in the middle of a season??????? Common sense would say NO. You would surely be looking for someone that has experience at this or Premiership level.
"Please tell me, had you been one of the board, would you have gone to St Johnstone to get us out of the ****, in the middle of a season" What in the same way they went and targeted gary Johnson from Yeovil who had a bit of success with a non league club and then proved to be the " best since Alan dicks" I cant remember all this negativity when DM was appointed.. Like I said I ****in despair...
You didn't answer the question..........and I for one was not all for DM what so ever......fairly on my own at the time if I remember.......Said it was a risk and said couldn't understand why we were going for an unknown manager with no experience at this level. As for our circumstances regarding GJ.........we were rock bottom in League 1 at the time and just been thumped 7-1 by Swansea, GJ had sucsess in taking a two bob club from non league to League one in sucesessive seasons..Good creditencials in my book. Not really a risk was it? The fact is, circumstances supposed to have changed......Looking for Premiership status, Flashy new stadium etc.........We get relegated now we will be back to where we started. And then SL might piss off.
To be very clear.. From the reported choice that was available, YES is the answer. And for the rest of the season I am going to spend my energy supporting him, and if the worse happens I will still be there and support them next year, whatever, like I have for the last 35 years.. as for GJ I was glad to see the back of him, you wouldn't have needed to worry about relegation if he was still here cos it would already have happened.. and then SL might have pissed off.
I agree with Banksy, everyone was over the moon after the first six games, with injuries and suspensions, the teams been struggling, we lose our top goalscorer, and who do you replace him with. Pitmans not the answer, certainly not playing up front on his own, if you play two upfront, it weakens an already weak midfield, if you look at where we were when DM came, we have improved, but not as much as we would all like. I personaly think whoever came in, what he inherited, would have not done any better. I think DM, who some call a cheap option, will come good, give the man a chance to put his own team together, he may find it difficult, but he's here so lets back the man
'give the man a chance to put his own team together' Del brought Woods in - He's no better than Stead. Fonts and Nyatanga don't have a right peg between them - and He brings in another 'Leftie'. Who knows which formation suits our squad best - but pairing Adomah and Pitman was stupid. Del needs to improve or we'll end up with another result this weekend similar to the one that 'done' for Millen.
As I've said, I'm NOT calling for DM's head, but I do think it was a cheap option by the board. I'll say it again.....The board needs to back the manager with what ever loan signings he requires to keep us from relegation....Otherwise all has failed. This is no time for tinkering......action needs to be taken now....... Again I've said, if DM is worth his salt, then he's had enough time to sort this out. Only then would I admit that the board had taken the right decision to appoint him.
