You really need to join in with the kids in years 10 and 11 to learn political theory. As for the decisions made being easy, you seem to have got a few wrong in your life or you would not be wasting it still as a classroom helper at your age.
Grammar wouldn't be my worry that your a TA; your little streak of maliciousness would be of greater concern & your seemingly absolute need that everyone must eventually agree with you or there's something wrong with them if they don't. I wouldn't want my kid round someone with those sort of control issues. Just out of interest; do you also get frustrated, angry even when you are held up or someone else is late? Do you always react with such anger when someone, anyone seems to step outside your moral order? Do you hold grudges? Is everything black & white. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is what I recommend mate. It'll make you a happier person.
Dirty frank... I aint showing disrespect to pool fans...if you've read my previous posts (as you suggest) then you'd have read my views about Hysel and Hillsbrough and seen that I oppose the REAL ANTI LIVERPOOL WITCH HUNTS. Not sure why I should want to speak to Man utd fans...that part made no sense to me. And no I don't think everyone at Liverpool is an idiot or disgusting .... I think some people made needless mistakes and then compounded it by repeating them. I have as much right as you to contibute to this debate...I aint a missionary I am a football fan who has an opinion and will air my view just as you and thousands of others do.
Terrifict....back to form eh? Happily for me I dont consider that I am wasting my life working in a school with children...it is a fantastic job and give me a lot of satisfaction to know I've helped a kid learn to read and count etc. and I learn something every day so it's never boring. I worked as a finance officer but hated how bored I was so decided to change careers so career wise I have not 'made mistakes' to get where I am....it was a choice which involved 1 and a half years working 2 afternoons on a voluntary basis in a school while doing my finance job and being a dad. You should not alawys jump to conclusions. And I still think it is a contridiction to complain about someone branding suarez a racist while incorrectly throwing the term fascist around...not sure what political theory you learnt from 11 year olds but you may want to try another source of information.
The united thing was an error on my part. I rectified it later in a subsequent post. I've been reading you "take part" in this "debate" across quite a number of threads, usually saying the same thing, usually judgmental in tone, usually to the same LFC fans. That's not debate, that's repeated condemnation with what appears to have an obsessive quality. I'd understand if it was in response to posts again & again on the spurs board but it's not. Plus a large majority of the LFC fans have moved on, accepted mistakes were made & are looking to get back to normal a lot of the discussion is about how we now do that but your posts keep going on about what we "should" have done. Yes, there are some who hold extreme views (their right) but repeatedly "debating " with people long after its clear neither they or you are going to budge is no longer debate. It's either being superior or maliciously provocative. I wouldn't go on to the BNP site and try & convert them to multiculturalism because it's a waste of my & their time. It's not me giving into them it's just recognizing our views won't change through debate on their ground. It makes them too defensive. Now I'm not justifying any abuse directed at you for voicing an opinion (& if i was harsh im sorry) but I see the growing resentment in large part due to people here seeing this insistence that people must see it your way or they're are bad in some way. The repetitive nature of your posts over various threads suggests you are the one inflexible in allowing various voices in debate. If I've misread all your many posts on the Liverpool threads on exactly the same issue and also like apparently many others your tone, my Apologies for any of my harsh responses. Debate on my friend!
Oh dear ... Where to start? So I disagree and attempt to explain why...you disagree with me and that you dont need to reason or explain...just insult. I don't think I have controlled anyone....just given a different point of view. I havent reacted angrily at all...I have no idea how any of what I wrote can be considered angry or controlling...but I do find it interesting that you are outraged that Evra could complain about Suarez from what suarez said but are happy to make pretty wild things up about me. As formoral codes...i have things that are unacceptable to me ...like everyone...very little makes me angry in everyday life as I don't see the point...sometimes I do but I always drop it and always apologise if i am snappy... And no not everything is black and white...its why i have never called suarez a racist, not accused anyone disagreeing with me names or suggested they have mental health issues unlike others on this board.
I suspect this would have brought about a swift end to the issue instead of blaming everyone else from Evra, Ferguson, the FA, Sky interviewers, other fans, the fascist pc brigrade etc. Do you think Evra would have done just that had any of the black Chelsea players took offence to him calling them 'niggaz' on French TV? Or had not Schmeichal just kept up a stonewall defence (almost certainly at Ferguson's insistance) when accused by Wright, he would have done the same? And here's a point that almost everyone outside of the Liverpool fanbase has missed - THEY HAD NOTHING BUT SUAREZ VOLUNTEERED WHAT HE HAD SAID! Yes, with hindsight, he should have apologised for the offence, but while the show trial praised Evra for admitting the 'Fook your whore sister' and Sudaca jibes, Suarez got absolutely no credit for offering the 'negro' admission, in fact they conjectured that he said he something else that wasn't even originally claimed by Evra for an amount of times that Evra didn't claim either. I don't buy the Sun, for obvious reasons, but I saw a copy of it left on the train and three items caught my eye. Firstly, there was St Evra of your Sister's Pussy, hand on heart, with headline "Why I Despise Racism". I didn't get to read it, but I don't think he mentioned his YouTube performance of his invective at Suarez, though he, and Martin Luther Ferguson and Rio X seem convinced (with FA and press backing) that 'racism' is solely about skin colour, despite the FA's own definition of racism, let alone the law of the land. Secondly, some berk called Steve Howard reckoned that Kenny has lost all the credit he gained after his display of dignity after Hillsborough because of the amount of time that he took to apologise for something that was plainly wrong - a SUN hack has the front to mention dignity, Hillsborough, facts and apologies! And finally, their political editor Trevor Kavanagh, who's been Murdoch's glove-puppet for decades is getting all arsey because the Digger is dropping all his loyal goons in the mire to escape himself. "draining the swamp" it was called, and King Rat has left the building leaving his faithful toads to the circling vultures. They're outraged that they should be 'picked on' for paying bent coppers, hacking phones, bribing the Met to drop its enquiries and a multitude of other law-breaking schemes because it was 'common practice' and they'd been 'doing it for ages'. And they still have a double page spread from a serial race-card player who got third-time-lucky and pious , double-standard-bearer of a sportswriter who writes in THAT rag that Kenny has lost his dignity because he apologised 'too late'. As said, Fenway (and Standard for that matter) are NOT the owners and associates for us - you'll all see that eventually. Can you imagine had they been in charge in the aftermath of Hillsborough? We would have been issuing unequivical apologies for breaking down the gates, pissing on brave coppers and robbing the dead. Ayre would have had the club writing a two-page spread spread in the Sun saying how we apologised for even suggesting that SYP made a mistake, and that it was obviously Liverpool fans who stole all the cctv tapes from the sealed control centre that only the police had access too. We've sold our history and heritage to these people, I tell you. I'd prefer to be a borassic and occasionally fighting relegation with the ****e across the Park than become this soulless, telemedia,innoffensive light-entertainment shirt-selling conglomorate like United, and a few more years of this and I won't be the only one. I do still hope the Sun closes down the same day as Thatcher dies though.
I agree; which is why I stepped back from this very harsh view in my next post. I reread some of your stuff & as you can see in my previous post to this I'm still not convinced about your motives but there it is.
Sorry if I have come across as inflexable....I am genuinely interested in this story and from reading the views of others. I have tried to justify my views and am open to them being challenged ... I have contributed to othrr pool threads and gooner ones and in my time on here (very limited) and on the old 606 site i have never been a wum. I dont think people should see things my way and dont think people are bad Its a shame that i am to be considered a wum when i have only debated...but fair enough life is to short so i'll sod off...enjoy the cup final...i loved every minute of our 2 a few years back.
I don't know about your owners but get the point you make and have sympathy. Touch wood our owners seem ok but god knows what kind of money grabbing assest stripper we'd get if they sold up. As for the Hillsbrough points...I dont disagree...like we spoke about before ... The treatment of pool fans by the Scum and police was and still is outragous. It is awful that some fans mock pool for this...Hillsbrough could of happened to any of us ... My first match was the 81 cup semi replay...the first game was at hillsbrough and a crush very nearly happened there...thankfully the gates were openned in time...the tragedy was made far far worse by the lies and cover up of thr police and the sun. As for thatcher ... I reckon shes already dead but they dont want to announce it cos they hate the idea of the massive celebrations thatll break out all over britain (apart from surrey and kent) when they do. When the sun and thatcher do die i will raise a glass to you!
I think the best way to go is for Suarez to release a book that covers this year, and get his side out quickly. The press will never take his side, as it is just so popular to hate him, and FIFA cannot go near this, as it was done in part to harden FA defences against Sepp Blatter's liberal view on racism. Any move by FIFA to defend Suarez would give the PC fascists more to cry about.
I think we should just move on from this unsavoury episode. I think we got done but fighting it would just be wasting essential energy we could spend on playing good football and trying to win trophies and to get into Europe. And also I do not agree to us feeling like victims. I think if we feel it we will give off the wrong vibes and we will be picked on. By the way FIFA has got a much worse reputation than the FA for corruption. They would probably have been harder on us, being so politically motivated.
fine the pfa had two players involved and decided to go with one of them. whatever. i'm suprised no-one has questioned this comment by MITO. yes, this does seem to be what the pfa have done. but 'whatever' is not a suitable response to them doing this. the fact is the PFA are employed to look after the best interests of ALL players. all premiership players contribute to the pfa and are entitled to equal support. especially in a case like this, where it is the word of one player against the word of another player, there is no corroborating evidence, and the media is using conjecture, bias and selective 'evidence' to create a furore, IT IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE for the pfa to side with one player against another. it is their job, their purpose, and their moral responsibility to be impartial to both players, and to ensure the impartiality, thoroughness and diligence of the FA investigation and subsequent hearing. in this instance the PFA have failed on all counts and should be duly castigated for such failures. players, like us public, may have no confidence in the impartiality, fairness and competence of the FA, but it's a sad day when it looks like football players can say the same about the body set-up purely for the purpose of supporting the interests of said players.
Carlsberg, you are right but then none of the unions (thats what PFA is) will help defend people accused of racism.
The PFA has to look after all the players interests not just two or one. If it feels that the image of the players (or of the game) is being damaged they would act. Racism is damaging to the game. No matter what the details, football in general comes out quite badly from this. There is no point blaming everyone: The FA, The PFA, the owners, the mancs, Ferguson, the panel, the media, the press, the reporters. At the end of the day, only one person did the deed and it would all have ended if he had said he didn't mean it. He compounded it by lying to his manager and the club, by not keeping his promise to shake hands. NOW can we all move on please? The whole world is not against us. Let's focus on winning football matches.
I agree with 2nd part but the 1st part wont be true until time heals the damage done and until John Terry's courtcase.
Do you really think that? why did utd turn down the chance of mediation then? Why didn't the PFA sort it out between them before it got that far. Why did the PFA say **** all to evra about causing the media storm in the first place.?
The PFA chief Gordon Taylor accepted £700,000 from Murdoch on the provision he keeps quiet about phone hacking. Hes the kind of man that puts money before moral's.
