Fergie Yet more Hypocrisy From most hated man in football

Regarding this case, Ferguson's support of Schmeichel remains valid, in light of the fact that the investigation was dropped. Had Schmeichel been proved to have used a racist remark, Ferguson subsequent actions would have been interesting and perhaps made your point

Only because wright was leaned on to drop it and Schmeical (unlike the naive Suarez) didn't admit to using a wrong word inadvertently. Knowing United, Wright probably dropped it because Schmeichal took a super-injunction out on him a-la Giggs and Rio X.

 

Heres an example of two white premier league players refusing to shake a black players hand.

<strong>[video=youtube;mFkYRXlwQxA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=mFkYRXlwQxA[/video]

 

Dirty frank

So he is very publicly happy to see a person convicted of an offence with the same amount of evidence that did not lead to a conviction with his own player.

Schmeichel wasn&#8217;t convicted because an investigation didn&#8217;t take place?

Are you suggesting that Ferguson should have investigated internally and used Schmeichels word against er, Schmeichel?


Donga

Wright was leaned on? Why? By who? Show me some loose tabloid journalism at least&#8230;.

Super injunction?! Proof? We are in fast and loose territory here.

 

Page_Miss

This is not even a race related issue. And the word was, that Viera was 'picking on Neville' before Keane came out the dressing room and threw a wobbly.

 

See, justification & dilution of facts. Sidestepping again, bringing in irrelevant information to murk the waters. The question is whether fergies actions are at odds with his statement.

It is not dependent on what was agreed before hand as this is not mentioned by Fergie in his disgrace comment. Nor is Suarez previous behavior. He merely states in direct reaction to a non handshake by Suarez that he should never play again & be sold. He doesn't add any get out clauses or acceptable times not to participate in hand shakes or pre agreement to shake hand clauses that make this penalty automatic.

So if we are going to play the semantics game. Fergie made one statement in response to one action.

He did not make the same statement regarding the same action by another individual. We believe this is because it's his player because no where in his statement did he say when it would be acceptable not to shake hands.

While he continues to not make that same statement or not take the proposed action against his player. or if like you he attempts to qualify his proposal when talking about the same action of his player while failing to retract his original demand on LFC then he is a hypocrite by his own words.

If that is not what he meant then he should have gave a less angry more detailed statement of why he came to the conclusion that he did.

In other words choose his words very carefully so not to box himself in to a moral stand he has no intentions of implementing.

 

People still moaning on about this! Really stupid especially when the Suarez / Evra incident has nothing to do with the Keane / Veira situation which more to do with the rivalry of two clubs at that time than animosity between two players let alone racism.

 

What was Rio's excuse for not shaking hands then?,maybe Scholes and Rio had the same excuse eh?

jeez you mancs bite easy Constcrete.

 

Really getting sick and tired of the whole Suarez / Evra debate. Do you not think its time to let the matter go?

 

I see you deliberately picked that paragraph out of context of the whole: why not the second?

Answer it:

If Scmeichal was not even charged because it was one player against the other, why was Fergie (morally) happy to see another player charged and convicted on the same basis.

He didn't just stay quiet, he stated he agreed with the process and decision that his player did not face. Stating as a senior figure in the game that he wanted equality of treatment in disciplinary proceedings would not have undermined is anti racist stand or his belief of his own player. Nor would just staying quiet and allowing the process to get him what he wanted.

Stating publicly that he thought the process was right was hypocritical to his public opinions on fairness in the game.

 

'Page_Miss',you must be gay Tucker,sorry to burst your bubble lad but im not interested.

So you are now going to prove that Scholes refusing to shake Viera's hand was'nt due to racism.

have fun Tucker.

 

****ing to right mate,obviously Tucker does'nt though.

Contact one of our mods and get it closed.

 

Get it closed. God forbid we debate something

 

Page_Moss

Why is the burden of proof on me? It's never been discussed or considered to be a racist incident, but feel free to make your case.

Just don't be surprised if no-one takes you seriously.

I will naturally. Just because I like how hard you try.

Page_Miss? God knows why I have been using that monicker. You have my apologies.

 

Maybe it should be closed but Liverpool fans are as bad as some Utd ones in keeping the debate going.

 

just winding you up over your jibe at my user

regarding the rest of it,its been done to death.

Theres no way on earth your gonna admit Fergie's a hypocrite so whats left to debate?

I threw the vid in to broaden your discussion because your going in circles with your posts.

 

As said earlier,

Well. Two wrongs certainly don't make a right - but did Ferguson publically state to the the media Ferdinand would shake hands with Suarez? NO

Of course, there was an expectation that it would happened there but it is 'sympathetically condonable' in support of the seeing his teammate get snubbed. The public at large seem to think that is understandable (rightly or wrongly). Had Rio not shaken Suarez's hand before Suarez had snubbed Evra, then there might be an issue, but i'm willing to bet Rio would be at the epicentre of the media ****storm if that had been the case.

No-one seems to mind that Reina shoved Evra away from Suarez when Evra grabbed his wrist, or that he was shoving Evra while he celebrated infront of Suarez despite the referee being close at hand to move Evra away. Like the Rio snub, its not the issue.

Was Ferdinand exacerbating a situation he created where he had brought waves of bad publicity (unintentionally) onto Man United? NO

 

^"some Utd ones"^



seriously though Its just become entertainment rather than reasoned debate.

 

Ahbut whilst they are on this thread, they can vent their spleen on each other and leave the rest of us alone

 

If i'm going in circles its because the same non-parallel examples are being peddled.

I admitted to you, a while back, that you had a case for Ferguson acting hypocritically in the past over Stam/Ronaldo and I will make the same concession again the moment that someone can show on fair and reasonable grounds that Fergusons comment regarding Suarez was an act of hypocracy