dont see why gays cant/shouldnt adopt. edit: doesnt mean i think Elton John should have been able to adopt; not sure he is suitable, but only due to his age. I say the same about those 50+ women who have test tube babies, how can it be good for either party when parentshit retirement and the kids still only 10 years old? I know gay couples who would make much better parents than some of the heterosexual trash out there. I doubt many gays would raise a potential chav. In fact, i think we should ban chavs from having kids. yes, i admit it, i am a chavophobe.
So you think heterosexual Chavs wouldn't be able to bring children up normally? But do think two men bringing up a child is normal, instilling in a normal child their beliefs! And yes I deliberately used the word normal. If homosexuality was the norm the human race would now be extinct!
I knew a couple of Irish gay lads at work called Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick - seemed like the perfect match to me like
Disagree with homosexuality on all counts. Just plain wrong. But would never act differently to one - treat me nice and I'll be nice back. Doesn't mean I have to even in the slightest agree with who they are and what they stand for.
Thats why we wont agree, you think being homosexual is a "belief" whereas I think its just something that is - you dont chose to be gay or believe in it imo, you just are or you arent. I dont think 2 homosexuals bringing up a kid would make that kid homosexual later on, cos their sexuality is in their genes or chemical makeup it isnt nurtured. btw; i was joking about chavs , however i do think there are mum and dads who are completely **** parents so i dont think sexuality plays a part in how good a parent you are. but lets leave it at that, these kind of debates never turn out well.
Ive worked in the nhs for a while now and it has its fair share of homosexuals. Some are good some are bad just like us straight folks. As for gay parents adopting I'm all for it if they can provide a loving and safe environment for a child that would otherwise grow up in a care home. Now I know dansafc jokingly referred to chavs but I've come into contact with a frightening number of supposedly "normal" heterosexual families that I wouldn't allow to breed gerbils never mind children! Unfortunately these normal people breed far too well often resulting in unwanted children or children that will grow up to be like their scumbag parents.
Fair point belief was the wrong word, in the context I used it. I stand by the fact that they will indoctrinate the child into believing their way of life is the norm. I also concur that they are mostly born that way inclined, doesn't mean I think it's normal though. I also think some are tempted or influenced through their environment or sadly in the case of some child molesters through abuse. Bringing a child up in an environment where, homosexuality is the norm, isn't normal imho. I find it hard to believe a child watching two men kissing on a daily basis isn't going to have some influence on the way he grows up. In my formative years, I learnt more from my parents than from any teacher. Of course there are **** heterosexual parents, there will be **** homosexual parents too.
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Some good reading there and well done everyone for giving forceful views without abuse, not always the case. I have no problem with gay peole or them adopting because they are gay, I would set the same guide lines gay or straight. That said two points,first thats my opinion and neither makes m right or more valid than MR, its the I'm right and you are wrong that is the problem and good to see we did not have it. Second, for all I dont have a problem with same sex couples adopting I think it would be nieve to think it would not have potential problems, not in my opinion turning a hetrosexual child gay but simple having same sex parents and the predudice it would bring.
One of the reservations that I have with same sex adoption, which has nothing to do with the sexual preferences of the people involved by the way, is the psychological problems that not having male and female role models can bring...Anyone that has read anything written by Sigmund Freud, probably the most renowned thinker in this field, will have noted the vitally important role he always puts on the relationship of mother and son in particular for sound emotional development... Having said that, I'm also very aware that many 'traditional' male/female parents have failed miserably in raising their children, so I don't for one minute profess to know all the rights and wrongs on this subject, but I can't help the fact that same sex adoption just doesn't ring true to me..
It is not the EU but the European Courts of Justice. Nothing to do with the EU. we can still deport him ( which will happen in the next few weeks) as thei ruling is not binding
[video=youtube;HTN6Du3MCgI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN6Du3MCgI[/video] So what are ladyboys, gay or just confused as they think they are born with the wrong body?
