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Fergie Yet more Hypocrisy From most hated man in football

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  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    "Those who did sympathise slightly with Suarez probably lost any of that sympathy on Saturday."


    I don't defend what Suarez did but Rio did the same - have you lost respect for him now as well?
     
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  2. johnsonsbaby

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    If you can take a step back and look at what's happened following the whole affair - Suarez has completely ignored Evra.

    How many people on here who have children have told them when they've been in a fight at school, stay away from him/her. Someone upsets you, you ignore them. That's what Suarez has done. He did the same on Saturday. I'm not saying it's right or wrong - just that he's been consistent.

    Now look at Evra - tells French TV immediately after the game, so puts it out there to the world before any formal complaint ahs been lodged or accepted. Snatches Suarez arm at the handshake. Start of game tries to get to him. Argument in tunnel. Dancing round like a fool after the win.

    Whatever you think of Suarez - he's maintained a silent and ignored Evra totally. Evra's behaviour has been inflammatory to say the least.
     
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  3. StJohn_Red_Legend

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    For what its worth, I think your interpretation is as close to the truth as we'll probably ever get.

    I wonder if the only time Suarez said Negro was as he said, and Evra heard something different (misheard it). I wonder if when the complaint was made of ******, that Suarez obviously denied it (as he hadn't said that word). By that time, the battle lines had been drawn and everyone was already digging in; neither side could back down realistically. Suarez had never used the word ****** (this had been accepted by Evra and the panel later), but equally, Evra was convinced he'd heard it. He couldn't back down, after the Chelsea incident and the panel report then discrediting his testimony (nothing to do with race, I hasten to add), he'd be branded a liar and no complaint he'd make again would stick. I think that Fergie probably encouraged this anyway, as he's always had a thing about Liverpool since his Aberdeen days.

    This could and should have been resolved behind closed doors, and the managers should have enforced the mediations before any consideration of bringing in the FA was mooted.

    But its by the by now...
     
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    Not particularly as I don't think Rio intened to snub him at first, I think it was a reaction after Suarez snubbed Evra.

    I have always thought that Suarez was harshly treated with the 8 game ban but watching on Saturday I just thought it was childish ( I also thought the same about Evra at the final whistle ).

    The handsake in itself wasn't even such a big issue and to a degree it wasn't about Evra and Suarez - it was about both players swallowing their pride and doing what was best for there respective clubs. That was I lost sympathy for Suarez not so much for not shaking hands but more for the disrespect he showed to his club in doing so.

    Both clubs are great clubs and Liverpool have taken so much **** for defending Suarez ( rightly or wrongly ) and I think he showed disrecpect for that support so I can hardly sympathise with the man <ok>
     
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    Further to your avoiding the question you show me YOUR degree in Spanish. The language Evra understands.
     
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  6. BiasedOpinion

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    So Suarez was trying to difuse the situation was he? By pinching him and calling Evra his buddy. Here's another Newsflash. Having intercourse with a 15 year old girl in Uruguay is legal. Would it be ok for him to do that here? Should he expect to avoid punishment if he admitted that to the Merseyside Police?
     
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  7. Sir_Red

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    Language faux-pas are now comparable to statutory rapes? My how the world is changing
     
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  8. BiasedOpinion

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    Or you could look at it this way.

    A 15 year old girl lying about her age to say she was 16 is comparable to a man who has lived in Europe for 5 years, long enough to know the do's and dont's regarding racist language.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Its also legal for a Scotsman to drive at 90mph down the hardshoulder of an English motorway to avoid ****ting his kecks but not in Uruguay because they dont have English motorway's.

    <ok>
     
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  10. BiasedOpinion

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    It's also legal for a Scouser (victim) to batter a DJ whilst 5 of his friends stand behind him as back up for not putting Rollin' - Limp Biskit on because he fancied a boogie with his la's
     
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    not guilty n. 1) plea of a person who claims not to have committed the crime of which he/she is accused, made in court when arraigned (first brought before a judge) or at a later time set by court. The choices of what one can plea are: guilty, not guilty, no contest, not guilty by reason of insanity, or incompetent to stand trial. 2) verdict after trial by judge sitting without a jury or by jury (unanimous decision in all but two states, which allow a verdict by only 10 of the jurors), stating that the prosecution has not proved the defendant guilty of crime or that it believes the accused person was insane at the time crime was committed. The accused cannot be tried for again for the crime charged.
     
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    Its also legal for a Scouser to get caught by a forgiving police officer pissing in public at 5am in city centre Manchester.



    :grin:
     
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    We could really do with access to real facts in this case. The only thing I heard Suarez had called Evra was "negrito", which as far as I know is Spanish for "little Black", but all the limited IQ brigade, in here and in the press think is related with Negro as a racial stereotype, while it relates more to nero/negro, which just does mean the colour black. but because the British are hyper sensitive, the fact that negro has different connotations over here, and is so close to "******", everyone hyperventilates! As I said before, this is just like calling someone ginger. Or how Andrés Iniesta gets called "glow-worm" by his team-mates because he is so pale, compared to the usual Mediterranean darker tones.

    But these facts don't stop the press and fans of other clubs from spouting groundless crap.
     
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    Eric - you really have no idea what Rio thought or intended. What he did was petty. And where's fergie's wrath over that - or the media's?? Whatever anyone thinks of Rooney, he had the right idea basically saying it's between 2 players everyone else act professionally - Rio didn't.

    Maybe Suarez got the idea from here <laugh>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-8wRRnqDPM
     
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    It's also legal for a Scouser to run a child over and pay off his family with a signed shirt so they don't go to the police Arf!

    Was wondering when this would start...
     
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    Now do the one for guilty. Ie the verdict given to Suarez. Because while you are all willing to accept the verdict given for the Gerrard incident despite it being there for all to see on camera you can't accept the guilty verdict given to Suarez.

    Why is that?
     
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    Link?
     
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    Link?
     
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    Its also legal for a Scouser to ruin the good name of a reputable hotel in Salford by hiring two prostitutes and turning the place into a brothel.

    <ok>
     
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