Fergie Yet more Hypocrisy From most hated man in football

The Schmeichel case gets an airing in a book about racism and football, so you can read all about it there (The changing face of football: racism, identity and multiculture in the English game - reviewed here in the Grauniad The Changing Face of Football)

 

Fergie said on saturday that Suarez not shaking hands with Evra could have caused a riot yet he laughed a few months back when told of Utd fans unfurling a banner at Anfield that could also have caused a riot in a match not involving their own team.

The police have rightly come down heavily on racist chants and insults from the crowds at matches and done everything in their power to arrest the culprits.

Yet when sickenking chants/songs referring to a disaster occur they dont have the same enthusiasm in weeding the ****s out and prosecuting them under public order offences.

 

When did Evra say this then?

 

Supposedly before Suarez supposedly said what Evra thought he heard him say

 

Evra admitted to insulting Suarez

 

Suarez admitted to refering to Evra by his colour. There was no proof Evra said 'filthy South American'

 

The Daily Mail one doesn't count, their sports editor hates Liverpool. And the opinion of elitist and self-important snobs at the Guardian and Telegraph won't make me lose any sleep.

 

The panel never considered any punishment for Evra for talking about Suarez's younger sister's vagina or calling Suarez "filthy south American".

Very balanced.

 

TBH there is no proof anyone said anything. Proof by its very nature is incontrovertible.

The FA Panel did not 'prove' anything. Suarez did not admit to referring to Evra by his colour, if you're being technical - he used a term accepted to mean 'Mate' or 'Pal' in Rioplatenese Spanish, certainly in the context that Suarez admitted to using it in. This was attested to by the Linguistic Experts called by the FA...

 

Kingkennysavedmyseason
No-one is saying Cantona was justified in crossing the line. Ferguson did not condone his actions. Cantona was provoked and behaved irrationally. On Saturday, outside the heat of the previous moment, Suarez was not provoked and behaved irrationally and in doing so, further damaged relations in an already bad situation.

Fordeckdave
Have you read this article from OP? And you think I am grasping at straws?

Page_Miss
Ferguson has always distanced the club from the appalling chants and appealed to United fans for them to not be sung.
Personally, i'd love to see all who sing them - thrown out of OT and banned for life. They are morons.

St_John
Thank you for the recommendation

 

He admitted to calling him the same thing De Gea calls him, "little black" Which raises an eyebrow in this country, but in reality, if we were not so hyper sensitive, is no different from "big ginger"

When you look at the F.A. report and you look at all the other things Evra claimed Suarez called him, there is no proof of any of that, so how is any of that evidence? Bottom line is that Evra is a dirty little lying twat.

 

Agreed. It is not fair that one insult should be deemed any less offensive than the other.

But that is not the fault of Evra, Ferguson or United.

 

The bottom line is that Suarez was found guilty.

 

I agree,but the fact no punishment at all came Evra's way via a recommendation from the FA panel shows that only the race issue was punishable in this case.

Lets be honest without the 'racist' response to Evra's insults(he admitted to starting the row)Evra would have faced a punishment of at least a fine.

But its over and finished with.

 

Negro means mate now does it?

 

He admitted saying Porque, Negro? In an argument with a black man would you refer to him by his colour of his skin? No because that is destined to offend him. In no way is refering to somebody by the colour of their hair the same as refering to somebody by the colour of their skin.

 

Page Miss

Without the racism issue, I cant imagine Evra would have faced punishment or a fine. I imagine that the type of insult he used are common place in football. Look at what Materazzi provoked Zidane with. The only time we even hear about it, is when it escalates into something 'worse'.

I hold no grudge at all to Suarez, Dalglish, LFC or their fans but aspects around the handling of it, have been a surprise.

 

Kindly present me (and the other posters on this thread) with a copy of your degree in Rioplatenese Spanish, and we'll accept your expertise as equal to or greater than those experts from the University of Manchester employed by the FA Panel

If not, run along and play with the other children - this is adult business...

 

yes, negro is banded around all the time in Uruguay and even in a store I'd say "can I have a can of coke, negro?" SOunds weird huh, but news flash, the world doesn't revolve around the UK and our culture. Just cus something is wrong in our culture doesn't make it wrong anywhere else. Suarez was wrong for thinking that it was acceptable in the UK, but you're being ignorant if you think it was said with racist intent when the uproar in uruguay over Suarez's ban (including team captain) should tell you how natural a saying it is over there and how suarez made a simple faux-pas

 

Whereas Suarez doesn't lie

How did that handsake go again ? You know, the one where he told the club he would be doing ?

The report is totally open to interpretation to be fair and neither side will back down in this argument so it's tiresome.

Those who did sympathise slightly with Suarez probably lost any of that sympathy on Saturday.

Also for the record I don't think Evra is innocent in all this at all and he certainly played his part.