I don't particularly think it's a racism issue anyone. Suarez obviously feels hard done by but I think he should have done what is best for Liverpool FC, even if that ment swallowing his pride. If you had done this and shock hands then both himselfs, both fans and both clubs could have been moving forward with this in the past however it's still now unfortunatly topical. I don't think he as done your great club any favours today.
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! ! Yeah, sure it was.... What was it compiled on? Evra's bullshit? No-one else heard it, and Suarez sure as hell didn't agree with him. So this "Independent Commission" took Evra on his word, and we all know how many times he has cried wolf on racism before, yet he is happy to racial abuse Chelsea players. [video=youtube;iMOWi3PRDJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMOWi3PRDJM[/video]
Taking a closer look at the handshake incident. I don't think Evra is without blame. Suarez has his hand out as he walks past Evra, but Evra didn't really make a real effort to meet him half way, until Suarez had moved on. I think they were both hesitant, in much the same way kids often make a mess of a first kiss. I don't thin Suarez wanted to look particularly weak and humble, and when Evra looked like he was making Suarez work for it, I think he made an instant snap decision to stuff it and move on. But when Evra then went after him, he should have then shook hands. However the biggest disgrace is Fergies overblown reaction to it.
Was the point of this thread not to enable both sets of fans to reiterate what is important to them about their club? So here goes: ALL the players of LFC put heads down, shut their mouths and improve because there is plenty of room for it. I don't want to hear any statements on any subject from them until I see an improvement on the pitch. Want Kenny to remind them they are only there & paid what they are to play football and entertain us fans. I want to see no whining or jumping up & down at missed passes, refs decisions or rival players actions. I want to see smiles & players enjoying playing football. Mixed season so far but I want to see good attacking football in the LFC tradition: a trophy and a damn good fight for fourth. How's that?
Maybe. I guess only Suarez will know if this is the case or if he was waiting until Evra reached out for his hand so he could then pull it back. Most Utd players held their hands exactly the same way and Suarez didn't seem to have a problem reaching out for all of them.
I think it shows that Fergie holds Liverpool and their reputation/history in higher regard than most of their own supporters. I see Suarez, Dalglish and Liverpool have been roundly slaughtered from all angles in the press today. Observer: Liverpool's Kenny Dalglish plays dumb to leave his dignity in tatters Daniel Taylor: 'Kenny Dalglish tried to stare down the (post-match interview) questions before coming up with a response that was so outlandishly flawed it made you wonder where he was storing all the qualities which we once associated with him? What Suarez did was callous, premeditated and dimwitted to the point that, if Liverpool had any sense, they would have condemned it on the spot and at least salvaged a semblance of dignity. Instead, they reverted to their default setting whenever Suarez comes under scrutiny: this half-baked conspiracy that everyone is against them and that the only way to combat this is to go on the attack themselves. Outraged by everything, ashamed of nothing.' Mail on Sunday: Dalglish is reduced to a scowling, sneering bar-room bully Patrick Collins: 'Undoubtedly, (Suarez) has been encouraged in his idiocy by attitudes struck by manager Kenny Dalglish. Throughout this depressing saga, Dalglish has promoted a sense of paranoia, a feeling that the club have been hard done-by, ill-used, savagely put-upon. He has conjured the notion of a vast conspiracy directed at Liverpool, without ever explaining the logic or the motives behind such a movement. At its most crass, it was the T-shirt worn to support Suarez, a gesture so tasteless that a football manager of even modest intelligence might have rejected it out of hand. Dalglish wore his daft little shirt as if it were a badge of martyrdom, utterly unaware of the ridiculous figure he was cutting.' Sunday Telegraph: Dalglish walks alone in defence of striker Henry Winter: 'For those of us gathered here at Old Trafford yesterday for the latest outbreak of hostilities between Manchester United and Liverpool, Suárez’s behaviour was embarrassing to behold. The fires of enmity always burn between these ancient rivals but Suárez inflamed the mood further by refusing to shake the hand of Patrice Evra. Those tuning in across the planet were presented with the picture of Suárez offending further an opponent he had racially abused. For a club that prides itself on its renown around the world, those pictures were a PR disaster.' Sunday Times: Shaming of football Jonathan Norcroft: 'When the dust settled, the bile subsided and the straitjackets were put away, Manchester United were left top of the Premier League. Recently, covering English football has felt like sending bulletins live from the asylum. Yet if you looked hard enough, past the handshake, the stupid fan chants, the stewards separating warring players and, hardest of all, beyond the loathsome Luis Suarez, there was a game of football here. United won it, and deservedly, and are leaders for the first time since October 1 to exert pressure on Manchester City before today’s clash with Aston Villa.' Sunday Mirror: Sinner... not a saint Anthony Clavane: 'Luis Suarez might have put the ball into the United net at Old Trafford, but his PR own goal will have a lasting effect on his career in England – and quite possibly destabilise Liverpool’s season. What on Earth was he thinking of? Kenny Dalglish indicated earlier in the week that Suarez would shake Evra’s hand. In refusing to do so, he let himself down, let Dalglish down and let the Kop fans down. The Sunday Mirror doesn’t always agree with Sir Alex Ferguson, but on this occasion he was spot on (in calling Suarez 'a disgrace').' Independent on Sunday: Rooney rises above acrimony to settle score Steve Tongue: 'There have now been 184 meetings between the two most successful clubs in English football history and it is difficult to believe that any other has been surrounded by quite the acrimony of yesterday's. In the Sixties and Seventies the players would kick or fight each other and supporters would do likewise, but here the backdrop was unique. From the moment that police confiscated every copy of a Manchester United fanzine, through Luis Suarez shockingly snubbing a handshake from Patrice Evra, then a fracas breaking out in the tunnel at half-time and Sir Alex Ferguson declaring the Uruguayan should never play for Liverpool again, it was an extraordinary day all round.' Sunday Express: Football the loser on a day of shame John Richardson: 'We had the good, Rooney’s goals, the bad, Liverpool’s failure to impose themselves until too late, and the ugly, the Luis Suarez-Patrice Evra affair which seems to be running longer than The Mousetrap. Just when a tiresome saga which has shamed football was ready to be finally put to bed, oafish behaviour from Suarez reignited the feud. A week of promises that the potential tinderbox situation would be dampened down obviously fell on deaf ears as far as the controversial Uruguayan was concerned.' The People: Kick him out Dave Kidd: 'Dalglish will doubtless carry on sneering at outside criticism of his continued insistence that Luis Suarez should never have been banned. But Liverpool's chippy manager knows full well that any such us-against-the-world rhetoric will go down beautifully with most of the Anfield faithful. Dalglish was appointed, not so much because of (owner John W.) Henry's independent will, but by an unstoppable tide of public opinion. The Scot is a canny old politician. And he knows his constituency.'
You appear to be a very insipid individual. The OP's intention was to call for an amnesty yet you continue to gently stoke the fire.
To be fair Dave you seem to be ignoring the fact that your fellow fans have already posted vids of Evra and slated SAF on this thread and jumped on the first United poster to post something negative. Thankfully for posters from both boards the biggest **** stirring bastards on this topic are neither fans of Liverpool or United. **** em. I'm just glad we got the 3 points this time it's just a shame there was such a circus around the whole thing
Seems my idealistic thread was just that. Fair play to the United and Liverpool fans who do want concentrate on the football. Shame on those who are no better then the british media and seem intent on turning this into an ugly slagging match. Luis Suarez has now come out an apologised, so hopefully our boards can return to hat the majority of us come here for........Football debate!!!
