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Fan's Generic Anti-Western, Religion and Politics Thread

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Dec 21, 2011.

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should this generic thread stay

Poll closed Feb 28, 2012.
  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You moved to this country. You can move to another.
    You're voicing your opinion, as is your right. I'm voicing my opinion, which is my right.
    You don't like it in the West, so perhaps it's best for everyone if you don't live here?
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Hence your confusion

    I WAS talking about the injustice in this country

    IN THIS country he has been held for a decade without charge and it is wrong

    You are confused about the dportation bit too, he is NOT being deported for being an illegal, although is he still one?

    I(F he is an illegal then what benefits? and if there are some then blame the countries law, which is my point

    Of all the 8 countries that you mention it is Jordan alone that has tried him in absentia. and there is clear evidence that the evidence against him was obtained under torture.

    do we then forget our principles? is that what you are arguing? is torture acceptable now?
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    He hasn't been held for a decade without charge.
    He's already been charged and convicted in another country, so he was held here awaiting extradition, which he's fought repeatedly, using the money of people that he hates.

    I never claimed that he was deported for being an illegal immigrant, though they can still claim some benefits while here, anyway.

    If the Jordan evidence was unacceptably obtained, then send him to one of the other 7 countries that he's wanted in.
    Revoke his citizenship too, so he can't return.
     
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  4. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    anyone can move to another country even you. To suggest that my moving once is relevant is just highlighting your prejudices IMO
    This isnt just my opinion I am voicing is it? unless democracy etc doesnt allow what I have said?

    I dont like elements of the west such as when the law is ignored to suit, surely this isnt disliking the west is it?
    Do you like everyything you see?

    or is it like the AQ case? as in nationality is the issue for you. would you still say the same if I was white?
     
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  5. Tina_old

    Tina_old Princess

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    What team does AQ play for?

    I bet he's a hun. He sounds like an orange bastard from the outset.

    UVF 'til I die.
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    He is an "ILLEGAL" Immigrant.
     
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  7. YeOldeYozzwolde

    YeOldeYozzwolde Active Member

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    <grr> You go girl. <laugh>
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If I hated the country that I lived in, then I'd move to another. Suggesting that you do so is merely practical, not prejudiced.
    You see injustice and prejudice in any view that disagrees with your own. Stop playing the victim.
    Drop the Ali G impression, too. I have no idea what colour you are, as religion and race aren't connected.

    You hate everything about Britain, apart from freedom of speech and the benefits system.
    These allow your idols to sit on their fat arses preaching hatred, rather than having to work for a living, like the rest of us.
     
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  9. Tina_old

    Tina_old Princess

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    I will, don't you worry.

    Who the Hell are you?
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    How long has he been held in this country?
    what were/are the charges?

    any benefits he recieved as an illegal is the mess of the law here no?

    He isnt being deprted to any other countries though is he? although I understand he hasnt said no to the idea of deportation just jordan


    which idiot gave him citizenship, especially as he was an illegal?
     
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  11. YeOldeYozzwolde

    YeOldeYozzwolde Active Member

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    I'm me! :bandit:
     
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  12. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I understand he has citizenship now
     
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  13. Tina_old

    Tina_old Princess

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    That clears it up.

    Thanks.

    <confused>
     
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  14. YeOldeYozzwolde

    YeOldeYozzwolde Active Member

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    Yer welcome <ok>
     
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  15. Tina_old

    Tina_old Princess

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    Am I? Am I really?
     
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  16. BlackRock

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    You are an imbecile. <ok>
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You seem to be thoroughly unable to process facts and retain information, Fan.
    Perhaps something less strenuous that requires less thought would be more your pace?
    A nice game of Patience, perhaps?
     
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  18. YeOldeYozzwolde

    YeOldeYozzwolde Active Member

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    Haven't had this much fun since i was a teenager and nicked a hearse, which unbenown to me had a coffin in the back. <yikes>
    Got a stern reprimand for that i don't mind tellin ya.
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    That just shows your weakness IMO
    If the likes of MLK or Gandhi or malcolm X the tolpuddle martyrs, the likes of emily pankhurst etc had thought the same thing nothing would have changed

    I see prejudice and injustice where there is some. Its clear that had AQ not been muslim etc many would be fighting his cause. The cause being that he has never been charged or convicted in this country.

    As for the Ali G comment, your just digging yourself in deeper. You constantly raise my background as being the reason for my views. The fact is that I have certain views based on merit. The legal system in this country agrees with me on the AQ issue

    Your insults just confirm my above views of you. It seems you resort to this when in the wrong
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

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    "ILLEGAL" Immigrant.
     
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