With the predicted Harry to England rumors I pose a question to all of you Spurs fans. If Harry left, would it be that damaging? For me, there's no doubting that he's a great manager, he's showed that at every club he has managed. But for me he's done the hard work at Tottenham. He came in after Ramos left and has slowly developed you in to a top 6 team, he's bought in quality in each area of your team, you also have a great youth team too, he's given you as a club a great foundation to build on and he's done it the proper way which is great to see and is why you deserve to be in the position you're in now. That foundation is the reason why if he left, you can remain title challengers in the future. Replace him right and it could see you step-up and make that final push you need. So Spurs fans, would it be that damaging if he left? Or is it a case of timing?
That's actually 2 questions. Q1 - If Harry left, would it be that damaging? A1 - No, because Levy would replace him with someone better. Q2 - Or is it a case of timing? A2 - No.
The timing's important, but the qualities of any replacement and a tricky choice to make. There's no obvious and direct equal to bring in, in terms of style and experience.
I think most Spurs fans (who have done more than simply make a knee-jerk reaction to any of this) will say that there will be life after Harry, and some of us (me included) believe that this is a fantastic chance for us to actually improve the club. Harry, for all the great things he has done for us, has also made his mistakes, and his status as "media darling!" has been somewhat embarrassing on occasions. Also, let us not forget that part of the great frustration we all felt at the point when Ramos was sacked was down principally to the fact that we has such a great team, but one that had had its spirit systematically broken by an Italian manager who refused to learn English, and who imposed an alien regime on players that simply did not work for us. Simply removing Ramos and replacing him with any old clown would have been an improvement, but the fact that we got one of the best man-managers in the game produced the kind of results that really ought to have been expected, as startling as they proved to be. So, for me, it certainly won't be the end of the world, should Harry be offered the England job, and should he choose to take it. My biggest worry is that, once again, Modric will be unsettled, or that Bale will consider moving on; because there can be no doubting that the players have formed a very close bond with Harry. Timing is going to be critical, should Harry decide to leave, and there is absolutely no way that Levy will let him go before the end of the season. I think that is now a racing certainty. It's all, then, down to who we bring in. And that's why I am dead-set against us bringing in Moyes, Coyle, Hodgson, Rogers, or any of the other names that have been bandied about, because I do not believe that they will have the gravitas to keep Modric at our club. We really will need someone with international calibre to come in, and take control. The players will be looking to Levy to make a mission-statement about his intentions regarding the club, and appointing someone like David Moyes will say nothing more than "we're happy to go back to living in Arsenal's shadow" and simply will not be good enough, in my view.
This. I think it would damage us - uncertainty over players would follow Harry's departure (there's already a Bale to Barca rumour in today's gossip pages although it's not the first time it's appeared). The players know how to play football obviously, but the influence of a strong manager like Harry leaving out would affect us substantially in my opinion. Pessimistic prediction? If he leaves, we drop out of top 4 - exodus of players follows (Bale, Modric etc)
Thanks for the decent tone of the thread. The issue for me is that once again there will be uncertainty. At the moment we know where we are going and, for the most part, we like it. Now, if he leaves, we have to rely on Mr Levy making the right choice to take us on. That may even improve us - as you say the foundation is there - but this is the Chairman that sacked Jol and employed Ramos. He is not infallible!
It would feel like it is damaging for us...but the blow can be softened depending on who we get as a replacement..however i understand what you mean....and HR has laid the foundations for us to have a good team challenging at the top..but we saw against your team on Monday night when HR was not present how we missed his input on the match.
At the time I thought Ramos was a very good appointment, he was working wonders at Seville. Obviously it didn't work out to well so who would be your ideal replace if Redknapp was to leave? Also Redknapp still might not even leave, The media is the one hyping it all up at the moment but all the good work Harrys done with you lot might persuade him to stay?
Admittedly it is easy to be wise after the event with Ramos, I guess at the time most of us were just angry about the way Jol was treated. To come in - Hiddink would be good, however unlikely. Brendan Rogers plays the way we like to see and Moyes has made a little go a long way (apologies for the Toffees reference). Any of them would be supported I think.
i'd be happy with them 2 HD. we are not like Chelsea wher we just fire managers for the sake of it..infact its great to follow a club like ours as oppose to a vermin infested club like chelsea..i just had to say that.
Timing could be the key - I would like to see us settled in a Champions League position before he left. I worry more for HR than for us though - we are a big successful club and can now attract the best - Harry will be moving to a job where no-one can succeed - England expectations are too high - with his heart condition I fear for him when the media decide he has had his period of "grace"
spot on fella and i think that is what will be the deciding factor really and he will decide against it.
I'm not sure what effect Harry's 'departure' will have on us. We'll know a lot more after Saturday how the players feel about the situation.
Starting any new Manager, including people like Hiddink & Mourinho, is a bit of a gamble. Just look at Cappello and the response he got from the players or should I say, what response! Spurs have needed stability for years and with Harry's success it looked like we had finally found some. When was the last time somebody followed a successful manager in a successful way. Only Liverpool have managed this, I think, from their famous boot room. So if Harry goes it will be a sad day for Spurs we will then be back to uncertainty. Still I suppose we are all used to that.
I'd agree with most of that, Luke. I'm still not sure, however, which way Harry will go, if offered the job. Yes, he's said that it was the pinnacle of ambition for any English manager to manage his country. But, he has also said that he feels he could become bored in the England job. He loves football, and he loves the everyday training and managing of a team - he won't get that as England manager. I hope he decides to stay. But, I fear he maybe doesn't even know for sure himself what he'll do, if he has to make that decision. I think the FA would probably sound him out first, anyway. Rather than suffer the embarrassment of him turning the offer down.
Levy will be working on Harry, even as we speak. I'm sure Levy won't block Harry, if he is truly determined on leaving the club, but there is no way that Levy will let Harry leave without putting up a fight and using every ounce of his powers of persuasion, to get him to stay. And I'm sure the players will be doing the same.
No one knows the future. All you can do is guess. 'Arry leaving could be great for Spurs. But the smart money would say otherwise. Spurs have been going in the right direction in a big way. So changing the manager would seem like a bad idea. Add the number of times players have talked about the personal bond they felt with him, and the number of players who could get more money than Spurs have to spend, and it seems even worse. On the other hand, the right, probably young, replacement could help Spurs become even better. It's an enormous challenge to get the team through building a new stadium and cementing a place near the top of the league, and it's a challenge that can go horribly wrong even after it seems to have been well done (see Arsenal). It might, ideally, be a job for a younger man. And I'll hope for the best if it comes to that. But if you ask me, I'd rather take my chances with Redknapp. Also, yes, thanks for the reasonable tone of the question.
