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If Rangers went bust where would Celtic go?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Medro, Feb 7, 2012.

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Where would Celtic go

  1. English Premier League

  2. English Conference

  3. Eircom League of Ireland

  4. North European / Atlantic League

  5. Stay in Scotland

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  1. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    They where in a position of it's not broke, don't fix. However, now, I believe sky subscriptions are down (in the home and commercially).

    The EPl is fast becoming a procession and they - in my opinion - may need to start to think of ways to freshen it up (like the 39th game proposal).

    Sky may encourage the EPl to look at alternatives going forward to increase interest and revenue...




    Who knows tho - maybe they won't ...
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    **** the Huns <ok>
     
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  3. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    Desperation or what from The Blue Meanies.

    Simply **** off and die and lump it.

    No wonder Murray legged it when he did.
     
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  4. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Paraplegist <grr>
     
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  5. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    Stinking, bigoted ****.

    You disgust me :D
     
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  6. Barrie Lochrie

    Barrie Lochrie New Member

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    Oh, it's the defender of the Papes, ER1916.

    Will you be indulging in a self-fist sesh this Valentines day Eahster Rhoad?
     
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  7. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    What did I say wrong like?

    You've stumped me there.
     
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  8. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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  9. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    Bend over a bit more sonny. There's more papes can fit in there now.
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    The story was always there for a sports desk to run with it. The unthinkable is now being planned for by the people who hold positions of power and authority in Scottish football.
    Stewart Regan seems to think he can reach the nation through Twitter. The defence of the &#8220;Old Firm&#8221; brand is in full swing. Should the &#8220;big tax bill&#8221; crystallise and the cash flow situation at Rangers deteriorate then the club established in 1872 (I know it has 1873 on the crest) will cease to exist.
    It will, literally, be the end of &#8220;The Rangers&#8221; and the connection with the past will be broken.
    A new company and new club could be set up and it could call itself Rangers, but it would not be the club established when Queen Victoria was on the imperial throne.

    &#8220;Rangers 2012&#8221; would be a new club. The movers and shakers in this are already positioning their ducks in the correct order for the &#8220;New Co&#8221; to be parachuted into the SPL without any penalty. If Rangers (1873) go into administration then there is mandatory 10 point penalty in the SPL. If the liquidation occurs then the &#8220;NewCo&#8221; does not have any penalty laid down in the SPL rules.

    The penalty could be draconian or there could be no penalty at all. Given that Planet Fitba is considering the unthinkable (Rangers being liquidated) then perhaps you might want to consider this:
    If Rangers were liquidated and, for the sake of this argument, were not allowed to come back straight into the SPL as a &#8220;NewCo&#8221; then what would happen?

    I suspect that the &#8220;provincial clubs in the West of Scotland might benefit. Perhaps Chick Young might indeed become a St Mirren fan. Ok, perhaps not. Certainly Motherwell would get some erstwhile patrons of Ibrox. The Ayrshire clubs, especially Kilmarnock, would get a lift. Hearts would probably get more people through the gates though I doubt Hibernian would.

    Fairly quickly Celtic would start to find that they would be coming up against a clutch of teams capable of beating them. It would be like having several clubs the size of Hearts in the West of Scotland. The financial disaster prophesied by people like Stewart Regan is shrill and fact free.

    The backward multiplier effect of a Rangers free SPL is heavily over stated by these hand-wringing adherents of John Maynard Keynes. Celtic would, for a while, dominate, but the Parkhead side would not be invincible and these provincial clubs would grow. The model would be a self-sustaining one with most clubs fielding the product of their own youth systems. Rangers&#8217; financial doping poisoned the well of talented Scottish youth. Murray Park became a training facility for foreign imports not an academy for home-grown talent.

    Celtic was forced into a borrowing driven arms race under Martin O&#8217;Neill. A generation after the tax-free steroid enhanced Rangers of the Advocaat years the SPL could see more and more players like James Forrest and James McCarthy breaking through into the top flight while still in their teens.

    In the 1980s when Rangers were enfeebled the new firm was in their pomp and Celtic had real competition from Aberdeen and Dundee United and Hearts came within a whisker of winning the double.
    Apart from the lifting up of several provincial clubs there would be a wider societal benefit from the extinction of Rangers.

    What WOULD be gone in a landscape without Rangers would be a gathering point for anti-Irish racism and anti- Catholic hatred in Scotland. Although there would be ex-RFC fans supporting these other clubs they wouldn&#8217;t be facilitated in their ethnoreligious hatred which seems to define their very existence. Ex-RFC fans attending these clubs would find Pepperamis in green wrappers, eggs Benedict on the lunchtime menu and, whisper it, a player from the Republic of Ireland in their first team.

    Rangers have been the nexus for much of the anti-Irish racism that has characterised modern Scotland in my lifetime. Without this grand central stain of poison Scottish football and Scottish society will be the better for it.

    In fact I can think of no better bit of national housekeeping as the independence question is about to be asked. Rangers, a creation of Imperialist North Britain, are an embarrassing bit of baggage that the new Scotland can do without.

    Written by Phil Mac Giolla Bhain
     
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  11. Tina_old

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    I concur.
     
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  12. RAVENBLACK

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    I dunno about that but I agree............
     
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  13. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/21/spl-tv-deal-sky-espn

    Central to the deal is the continuation of four Old Firm matches each season.

    If there is no healthy competition to challenege either 1 of the OF then it would become stale. We alone have picked up the majority of co-efficient points in Europe. Remove us from the equation and you drop further down the co-efficicent table, making it virtually impossible to attract better players and play CL or even European football.
     
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  14. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    No need for sectarianism.
     
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  15. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    Hi Medro,

    Welcome to 43 posts ago.

    **** the Huns.
     
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  16. Tina_old

    Tina_old Princess

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  17. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    I covered this already Medro. ST has also posted that link.

    Keep the **** up <ok>
     
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  18. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    **** that I'll be ****ing 6 feet under before i support ****ing St Johnstone or Dundee Utd.
     
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  19. Tina_old

    Tina_old Princess

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  20. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    My apologies pet, I was working. What was his answer?
     
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