According to the latest odds anyway. Noticed Neil Redfearn is now second favourite. I think Bates will just leave Redfearn in charge until the end of the season myself. Whats everyones thoughts on Dave Jones though. I can't make my mind up about him. He has a decent track record, but he just doesn't seem very inspiring when I see his post match interviews.
Dave Jones 11/4 Neil Redfearn 3/1 Lee Clark 4/1 Neil Warnock 6/1 Bryan Robson 9/1 Roberto Di Matteo 12/1 Steve Bruce 12/1 Dougie Freedman 16/1 Billy Davies 16/1 Gianfranco Zola 18/1 Paul Lambert 18/1 Phil Brown 33/1 Gordon Strachan 33/1 Paolo Di Canio 33/1 Sean O'Driscoll 33/1 Keith Hill 33/1 Gary Kelly 33/1 Radi Antic 33/1 Karl Robinson 33/1 Alan Curbishley 33/1 Roy Keane 40/1 Ruud Gullit 40/1 Alan Shearer 40/1 Paul Ince 40/1 Mick McCarthy 40/1 Gianluca Vialli 40/1 Gus Poyet 40/1 Ole Gunner Solskjaer 50/1 Lucas Radebe 50/1 Sven Goran Eriksson 50/1 Gary McAllister 50/1 David O'Leary 50/1 Iain Dowie 50/1 Dan Petrescu 50/1 Dennis Wise 50/1 Nigel Clough 50/1 Eddie Newton 66/1 Peter Reid 80/1 John Sheridan 80/1 Andy O'Brien 80/1 Stuart McCall 80/1 Dom Matteo 100/1 Vinnie Jones 150/1 -
It could be worse guys, look at some of these names... Robson, O'Brien - WTF???, Sridan, Wise, Vinnie Jones....
he was the best paid manager in the league when he was at cardiff on £750k, its safe to say he wasnt the best manager in the league either..
dave jones ? lets hope that is a BAD joke, thats a step backwards , this is all begining to worry me now we might as well hire bagpuss !!!
No way Jones! Clueless when things were going wrong, never seemed to be able to change things at Cardiff. Should have got that team promoted no problem. As for Bryan Robson.................KB could always pay him in cheap booze and Meths. No Thank you
Personally I wouldn't want Dave Jones and in truth i think the bookies have no idea, its just the amount of betting that is controlling there odds so really means nothing imo I reckon we could get Poyet yet. Yes he did rule himself out but in that interview it kinda seemed like he'd be happy with being offered the job though I still want Clark, although failing that I wouldn't mind Di Matteo although the Radi Antic rumour got me thinking about him. I'm starting to think that Redfearn could be named as a caretaker for the rest of the year and in truth I wouldn't mind it but it would reak of a lack of ambition more than anything
How would Clark be anything other than a pointless step backwards? What reeks of lack of ambition is selling key players, not providing the funds to replace them then sacking the manager.
I've already disagreed with this. I want you to imagine your running a football club, you have allocated a budget (regardless of what the budget is, its irrelevant in this scenario) and you have hired the manager you think should run the team. Now you have given him the right to go and buy a team of players that he thinks are good enough, he brings in loanees as well but he controls the budget you give him for both transfer fees and wages (and the wages work as an annual price whereas the transfer fee is a straight up fee). He then gets the team, he has more than enough players to fill the squad, 6 CBs and 6 STs for example. You go to him and ask him whether he beleives he can get promotion with this team and he says yes just 2 months before the Transfer window. He then falls out with a number of players he signed for no apparent reason and come the transfer window brings in more players which you dont have a problem with at this point in time (because its strengthening you suppose). He then tries to bring in ANOTHER CB which you say to him you have 6 which you said where good enough for promotion just 2 months ago, how can so much change within 2 months???? Anyway point is he is failing in his attempt to get promotion when he said it is more than possible and then he blames the squad's incapability because he is failing. What do you do? do you sack him or do you stick by him Personally I woulda probably sacked him before the transfer window or given him the rest of the season to prove himself
This has been explained before by someone else. I'll use the problem of CB: We need one, you identify some targets, from your more expensive 1st and 2nd choices down to the cheap options, your chairman tells you you have to go for your cheapo 4th option, oh, and you also have to replace those 2 CMs we've let go and that winger we sold, the cheap CB fails, so you need to get a replacement in, but at the same time can't shift the old one and you've had another key player sold from underneath you. The budget is completely relevant because it's the root cause of the build up of deadwood and lack of quality in certain positions. The squad probably is still capable of promotion, just, but has been through a bad patch of form, as any team experiences, and anyway, being capable of promotion is different to actually achieving it. Of course Bates wasn't going to sack him before the transfer window, then he would have deal with a new manager wanting funds for players. Basically, key players are being sold and the manager wasn't being given anywhere near enough money to replace those with players of similar quality and/or add to the squad in the areas that needed adding to.
The bookies know **** all, and actively go out of their way to create rumours just so more bets get put on. Jones won't be noncing in the playgrounds of Leeds.
On top of that any areas that we've been lacking in and Bates has commissioned the money to get a replacement, those replacements have been loans. Why? Because the budget won't allow anything more than that. As for Bates asking Grayson if he thinks he can get promotion with the squad he's got... it's a loaded question. Bates is using this as more "evidence" that it's not his fault. Grayson's only hope of keeping his job at that point is to say yes. If he says no, Bates thinks "well you have no confidence in your team, get out" and sacks him anyway. The build up of deadwood that stopped the signing of a new centre back, who we are assuming is Sean St Ledger, is down to a restrictive budget. **** all to spend, you get **** all, then nobody wants the **** all that you've got when you try to get rid because they weren't good enough in the first place. Grayson has been backed into this corner that he can't possibly get out of, then to top it all off has been blamed for getting backed into that corner. Bates is vermin.
So if that was the case, why in NOVEMBER did Grayson say that he feels he has the squad that can get promotion and then change his mind come January
Because his job was on the line and saying "no" would mean he has no confidence in his squad, which is bad news. Like I said, it was a loaded question which Bates has now used to shift blame.
I dont think it was a loaded question. If you say yes to being able to achieve promotion then you deserve to be sacked when you don't achieve promotion If he had said no, then it'd be then how can we get to the point where we can achieve promotion. It may have been a little awkward that he has a squad of HIS players that he has built that he does not feel can achieve promotion but he'd still been given the chance to try to improve it to a point where he can achieve promotion. And Leeds-18, If he was Bates' dancing bear then why did you like him so much? I dont understand how people are still defending grayson's every move. I did not think he was a bad manager and there was a lot of good about him but i feel he has taken us as far as he can and his sacking was inevitable and was always going to happen so why delay that, keep the club moving forward
