I came on here expecting to see all this nonsense. No one has shown any evidence of a "Blatant" lie. Saying that is itself a Blatant lie, so you are the only one doing that. A lot of fans are unhappy about the performances and results. I get that, I really do, I am upset as well. What I really have a problem with is the gross misrepresentation of facts, to make out that there is some kind of sinister plot to defraud the fans of the victories and trophies that they deserve, or some dreadful icompetence on the part of our management. If you believe that money doesn't make that much difference and big clubs don't have a huge advantage, then you have to accept we have done well to be in the top 4 for so many years. If you do think it makes a difference, then you can't fail to accept that we are currently facing a situation where there are several clubs with more money than us now. As so many of you are pointing out, the side is lacking in experienced players, due to not buying players over the past years. Not this year, not this January, but 2 or 3 years ago, so the problem is not a lack of money now, but a lack of money 3-5 years ago. You also have the benefit of hindsight, and the benefit that the successes of your solutions are totally speculative. Although you all say, if we had bought x or y, we would have won. But that is only in your imagination. We could have spent 500M and not won a thing. And you know what, we could have spent that money and not won and there would be no reason to suspect that anyone had even made a mistake. Now you all want Wenger out. Great! But that isn't going to change what we did 3 years ago, and the new manager is going to face exactly the same situation. History shows that replacing a manager at this time of the year does no good whatsoever. So shout for him to be replaced as much as you like, but if it all goes tits up, I know you are going to be back on here with a new batch of conspiricy theories and questions about why we didn't get Jesus Christ to run the club and work miracles, because that is about the only thing that will make you lot happy. Wenger has been turning water into wine for you for the last 14 years and you still aren't happy. You were putting songs up the other day, well here is one for you... http://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=youtube big yellow taxi
lol I see you go to the same school for lying ****ers as Jamrag, but if it gives you pleasure I don't mind Toledo, you are either an idiot or an idiot. Go away - there's a good chap
To the 1st point - Depends on the sample size and the ensuring that it is a fair representation. Rubbish. - Jayram can and does look after himself. No-one actually knows who complained about Jayram (it wasn't me), apart from those people and the mods. Yet because of your views you class all 'wenger-lovers' the same. By the way Jayram also insults people too - Here are a couple from page 2: "Your lack of education was clear the last time I posted it, so no need to go through the same argument." "Yep but Half Full prefers to attack because she cant handle the arguments. Dont forget though as soon as you attack back she runs to the mods." This is NOT an attack on Jayram by the way, just correcting you.
I'm loving the way you have reinvented yourself as holier than thou Toledo is an idiot for falling for your games. The other numpty is a bigger fool for continuing to repeat your lies about my complaining to the mods about you - got it now?
You should learn not to be presumptious. As stated in my post above, which for YOUR benefit I will reiterate here: Jayram can and does look after himself. No-one actually knows who complained about Jayram (it wasn't me), apart from those people and the mods. Yet because of your views you class all 'wenger-lovers' the same.
I didn't complain and would dearly like to see this post you refer to so that I can (if it exists) see it in it's true context.
HF You don't seem to be intent on winning friends and influencing people today. Do beware of ever decreasing circles....
Everybody relax. Extreme views are the norm nowadays, and that is really what I oppose. Jayram and Robin are facing a crisis of faith (I seem to be getting very religeous today) We need to bring them back into the fold with love and kindness (excuse me, I have to go and puke). ...better now, No one should think that everything is perfect, but there is no reason to suspect that these are not good men doing the best they can, and probably doing a lot better than a lot of other people could do. We need to get behind the team. The end of the season will be the time for debate about what changes should be made. I thought we were a bit unlucky yesterday. Defence was fairly solid, If the game had finished 2-0 to us, no one would have said it was undeserved.
If all people can do is start throwing insults this thread will be closed.Please treat each other with a little dignity.This post is aimed at everyone
TBH, I would rather suffocate most of you rather than attempt to make friends with you. Some are accusing me of looking for a fight. I challenge them and you to go back and look at the threads started just after the result last night. Almost every one is full of posts openly goading the alleged 'Wengerphiles' and 'blind faithers' who hadn't even posted at that point. Now the same cretins are trying to accuse me of picking arguments lol - too funny.
Some might argue you just say the opposite of whatever other people are saying, even if said other people agree in principle like you (like trompton), and thus aren't really a person, more a personality. It's stupid to consider firing Wenger now. Jan has been and gone, the time to replace would of been then or summer. Give the manager time to look to see what needs strengthening. You do feel that time is running out for Wenger though. 7th and tough next few fixtures could be a tipping point.
