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Cracking result but Clegg still needs to **** off

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by Spanish, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    After the elation of tonights cracking win we are brought back down to earth by what Jewell has to say with ref to transfer failings.

    The Pompey duo failed to sign because they couldn't agree personal terms, HOW MANY FECKING TIMES IS THIS GONNA HAPPEN?????

    Jewell then goes on to say the Falkirk player failed to sign because we tried to renegotiate a deal with Falkirk, offering them less money than had been previously agreed. WTF?

    This is Clegg's fault, the guy is a clueless ****ER, the sooner he ****s off the better!!
     
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  2. sparrowfarmer

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    how the **** we fail to agree terms with players who aren't getting paid is beyond me
     
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  3. ciderman

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    Well said Spanish,I was just going to post something similar.

    C.B.E..................My Ärse.
     
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  4. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    So the deals with Falkirk & Pompey both broke down on terms.........CLEGG PLEASE **** OFF....!
     
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  5. ciderman

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    Sorry to double post but Clegg is not a football man.He must go .
     
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  6. Yellow Leadbitter

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    Just never like him in interviews, just spoke for 30 seconds regarding going for the category one academy, soon as a question is asked he tends to shoot down the journalist asking the questions. We should be category 1 if we can, which with the owners backing surely that is feasible?
     
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  7. raging eyejuice

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    without knowing exactly what these players were demanding, i find it hard to put clegg down. i'm glad they are keeping sensible, lets not panic and get the wrong players for too much money...... finidi, le pen etc etc.
     
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  8. tractor bhoy

    tractor bhoy Well-Known Member

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    Agree with you Gus,
    Some moan when we offer stupid contracts, moan when we put in high bids, moan with low bids, moan when we dont offer enough wages, moan when we make signings and moan if we dont.
    Im convinced some fans just like to have a whinge about anything.
    Even though Portsmouth are skint currently the majority of the players know that if the worst does happen then they wont have any problems getting a new club so its not neccasarily the disaster that the likes of you and I may face if our place of work disappeared tomorrow. They may have took a bit of a chance and asked for silly money, they may have decided that given our league position they might as well wait until the summer before deciding whether to move. They may simply not have wanted to move here.
    In the case of the Falkirk defender, maybe Huddersfield offered him first team football and it was a promise we couldnt make (the scottish first divison is on a similar par to lower league 2 in english football so being a standout there doesnt neccassarily make you a star) maybe he want to stay up north, afterall he turned down Brighton aswell.
    I think Darren Currie Summed it up well on BBC Radio Suffolk after the match last night. Its better to make the right signings at the right price rather than sign someone for the sake of it.
    I am rather dissapointed we didnt sign a RB but I would rather we sign the right one rather than anyone and if it means another loan deal next week and sign up a decent player in the summer then so be it.
     
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  9. svendust

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    Compeltely agree. Last night showed us that we're not as desperate as we thought for new signings and Clegg was right not to give in to Ward and Pearce's demands.

    And I'm not surprised they wanted to renegotiate the terms of the Wallace deal after he played Celtic, he looked rubbish, lumbersome in a word and as Jewell said 'not ready to play at this level'.

    I would much rather sign another two or three Drury / Cresswell / Stevenson types than get in players who are just here for the money.
     
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  10. johnnywarksmoustache

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    Come on Sven mate!
    Not desperate for new signings!?! Are you having a laugh?

    One great performance doesn't suddenly excuse our shocking defence! YES it was a fantastic result but I am more interested in how we perform against Coventry on Saturday. Our defence does need reinforcing and Clegg/Jewell should have made signings in the window. We are still in the poo and one welcome result doesn't suddenly change our priorties. <ok>
     
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  11. svendust

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    Not AS desperate I said! Before the game I was convinced we would be relegated with the defence as it is but after last night I think we could stay up

    We obviously need to strengthen in that area but not to the extreme that we give in to clubs / players demands
     
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  12. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Lets just see how we get on against Coventry! We have had more false Dawn's this year then Jordan has had implants!
     
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  13. tractor bhoy

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    I dont think anyone is stupid enough to think we dont need reinforcements but its also a totally pointless exercise in making rash or second rate signings just to add to numbers. Its also rather stupid paying someone twice what we think they are worth just to get them.
    Although a slightly different situation, look at the endless chase for Norris, which finally led to us paying £2m for him. The club should of thought twice about the deal along time before a bid of £2m was required but no we went on and on and spunked away a fortune on somebody who quite frankly is not a footballer
     
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    I would have accepted the club paying a big fee for the Pompey players, maybe a bit over the odds but they are the sort of players we need, but I wouldn't have liked the idea of the individuals themselves being paid way above the average, as we know, players coming into a dressing room on much higher wages usually does not go down well...Also, all this rubbish coming form the players about loyalty to Pompey, sounds a lot like they would have jumped ship for better wages!

    NO idea what to expect in the loan market, or indeed if we will pursue the Pompey trio further...
     
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  15. johnnywarksmoustache

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    I think that we should let the Pompey boys stew in their own juice! The last thing we need are players who don't want to come here and I would rather have the hungry players that are desperate to prove themselves. Give me 3 Andy Drury's any day <ok>
     
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  16. tractor bhoy

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    JWM, agree totally mate. We want players who want to put in the effort and play here. Darren Currie said last night he was amazed that any player who was interested in playing football wouldnt want to join a team off our stature. He said as soon as he knew that we were interested in him he knew he wanted to come. Thats the attitude we need. Not trying to bribe players by paying double what they are worth
     
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  17. johnnywarksmoustache

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    It sure has been a hard lesson learned but it seems that PJ is now taking a far less blinkered approach to transfer dealings and if he turns out to be as good as Burley was in spotting young talented players in his early days at the club, we will soon be reaping the benefits.
     
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  18. tractor bhoy

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    I think its good that we didnt go 'bugger we only have an hour left to sign them, lets offer what they want' It may be annoying from a fans point of view but at least it seems like they are looking at some kind of financial stability to go with management stability. Lets hope it doesnt turn round and bite us. (could be worse we could be Leeds fans as they have just sacked Grayson for being 3 points of the play offs and having his key midfielder sold - talk about disgraceful)
     
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  19. San Diego

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    To be honest I don't want us to buy players who don't want to be here so I'm glad we didn't get any of the pompey boys. It was clear none of them wanted to come to us so why bother trying to convince them otherwise. If we can repeat performances and results like last night then we'll be ok this season.
     
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  20. itfcptc

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    I have to say I do prefer the clubs stance on things compared to when ME first took over but what clearly is worrying is our position and our defence, although basing it on last nights performance we should be ok. Even though we didn't sign anyone permanently I am certainly more optimistic than I thought I would have been probably mainly due to last nights result but I expect we will sign a couple of defenders on loan which isn't idea; but will have to do for the time being. Also none of the bottom 3 clubs or clubs around us have really strengthened, infact most of them have lost players and some fairly important ones at that, Sharp from doncaster, sordell from watford, morgan from nottingham forrest and also the uncertainty surrounding portsmouth. If we beat Coventry that will be a massive 3 points and would leave us in a much more comfortable position. I think we'll be ok and over the summer am confident we can build a good team, as it appears Jewell now is targeting the right type of players for the club.

    So although I am annoyed we didn't sign a defender it is good to see that the club is being more sensible with its transfers than how it has been the past few years, which has been part of our problem of just throwing money at the situation, we need to let our team evolve. After all its very easy as a supporter to say we should spend this much money on a player when its not our money, lets not forget how much ME has put into the club.

    Tractorbhoy, as ever i agree with you but regarding Wallace, I do feel a little puzzled about that one as it appears that we either changed our offer and it was rejected or the player was put pressure on to join Huddersfield because they offered more money upfront. If we changed the offer i think this was wrong, especially as it was not a large amount of money in football terms. Also I think yes we do need a RB but I think we are more in need of CB's, I don't think Edwards would be that much of a liability defensively if we had 2 good CB's to help him out, he is certainly better as a RB going forwards than he was as a right midfielder.

    Also your right we want players who want to play for the club and you use Darren Currie as an example, although we were in a slightly different situation then when he signed, we were near the top of the league. I wonder if we would have played the West Ham match last saturday with the same result whether some of those players would have been more inclined to sign for Town yesterday?
     
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