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Sack the manager, oh no, not quite just yet....

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Jamrag, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    It was a good performance against a decent Villa side....... If we showed the same kind of endeavour and industry in our next 3 games, we should get maximum points. Villa's goals was IMHO against the run of the play. We should have been at least 3-nil up at half time! At half time, the team was booed off, I thought that was unjustified. I along with others at the Emirates, wondered where 3 goals needed to win the game will be coming from. The dog and its world know what the team is lacking, will it be addressed in this transfer window? I doubt it will, cannot see us doing anything about it in the Summer either. Then we'll probably lose RVP, I also heard Rosicky is the only one willing to talk about a contract extension, says it all really!
     
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  2. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    I was annoyed to hear the booing - that will solve nothing.
     
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  3. I was saying earlier this afternoon that there are so many things wrong with our club and team and wonder who, how or when these problems and deficiencies are likely to be addressed. Perhaps my memory isn't as long but I cannot recall a period where there has been so much in need of fixing at Arsenal. The quality we once had has just been allowed to slip away so now we are uber reliant on players like RvP.
     
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  4. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    Precisely, especially, when you could see, we were desperately unlucky to be 2-nil down at the break.....I saw Oxo trudge off at half time amidst the booing (think he was the last to leave) and felt sorry for him.
     
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  5. Agreed Friends.

    Booing our own players in the heat of battle is beyond making no sense.
     
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  6. Kyle?

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    Why can't we play like that every week? Those 15 minutes at the start of the 2nd half were electrifying. If we did that week in week out, we'd be in the top 4 no issues whatsoever.
     
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  7. That's the 64K question pal
     
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  8. Wandering Yid

    Wandering Yid Well-Known Member

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    What's to say the booing didn't provide the motivation for the team to pull it back at half time. Your team was on course for a 4th consecutive defeat, for Arsenal that is unacceptable, and you as fans, people who pay their wages, have every right to feel aggrieved if performances are consistently not up to scratch.
     
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  9. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    How do you decide if they are not up to scratch?
     
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  10. Wandering Yid

    Wandering Yid Well-Known Member

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    By watching, with your eyes <doh>
     
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  11. Jamrag

    Jamrag Well-Known Member

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    Really? If you get a grown up to read the posts for you, what you will see is me trying to counter the continued barrage of negativity made by posters like you. I have never claimed all is well at AFC and once you learn your ABCs you can revisit the posts and see that for yourself :)
     
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  12. Not PC enough

    Not PC enough New Member

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    there there ...shhhhhhhh..... its gonna be alright .


    i also edited my sig in your honour.

    Had to share your holiness with everyone every time i post .
     
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  13. PeterRICK

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    Indeed. I've been a staunch Wenger fan for years and, as much as I love him (and I do), I think he should go. This doesn't detract from all the wonderful things he's done for the club and it certainly doesn't mean I think he's a bad manager as he's not. I just think the club has gone a stale and we need a mahooosive shake up.
     
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  14. theHotHead

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    Villa are decent, not poor, nothing special but with Bent and Agbonlohor they certainly carry a threat.

    Great win having been 0-2 down, shows heart. I'm, not happy we were 0-2 down in the first place though.

    As for the booing, its great that some people think they are some authority on the issue, the FACT remains a large portion of Arsenal fans who have paid their money to watch us play were NOT happy with the performance, they booed the team off to voice their disapproval.

    I for one think that helps, that kicks the players up the bum and lets them realise that, we aint having it !!! If the poor luvvies can't handle it they should piss off to another club. We want to see heart and desire. Make no mistake, most of that booing was directed at Wenger and the board, I have no doubt about it - if that wasn't the case the booing would've been while we were playing, no ?!
     
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  15. On that last count Mr Head, I certainly hope the message gets through to Arsene and the board. In the recent years of their tenure we have been no more than making up the numbers albeit merely clinging on to fourth place by the skin of our teeth which Arsene claims to be some strange measure of success and we won't even be there this year if our form in the league does not significantly improve.
     
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    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    I guess we are all entitled to our own opinions on the subject of booing. I just do not believe it is productive to boo your own players, I thought it was something spuds do! I wonder how many of us fans at the emirates actually get sucked in? A friend of mine who booed Arshavin at the Manure game, regretted it afterwards..... He acknowledges it was a silly thing to do. He has a son playing in the Arsenal under 9s, I have never played football at professional level, but also have a son playing for a local under 14s (I know it's not the same, but I think the principle still applies), how would he or I feel if he was booed off the pitch after a bad day on the pitch?

    I know the come back is we pay decent money, so we are entitled to say what we like......
     
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  17. theHotHead

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    Totally different, children are fragile, professional footballers are not - otherwise they wouldn't be pros. They are thick skinned. The odd one snaps - cue Cantona, but by and large they know they will get abuse. For most they are not bothered, in fact it can have the opposite affect, it spurs them on.

    Like I said, booing the players while they are playing is not the same as booing the team off after a shocking first half, they would totally expect it and it happens everywhere not just in England. In Spain they twirl white handkerchiefs/white things as a gesture of disapproval .. along with the boos.
     
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  18. PeterRICK

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    I'm not sure thats true, sometimes the team needs to know just how disappointing they have been. For example when Eboue was booed I completely disagreed with it at the time, but when he came back he had cut out the diving from his game and seemed much more focussed than before. Yes he reverted back to his bad old ways later on but that still doesn't change the fact that the booing helped him in a way no other thing would have done. Likewise when the team put in an uncommitted performance I think it is justified to let the players know that they have not been up to the standard expected of them. Of course football being what it is you should not boo the team every time they don't play well but it should be allowed sometimes.
     
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  20. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    Football is a very emotional/passionate sport. I can understand why fans lose their rag at a perceived lack of effort from their team. I still think yesterday's first half performance was not as bad as people are making out (and did not merit the booing), we were just wasteful in front of goal.
     
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