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Andy Carroll/Carlos Tevez.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Chris., Jan 28, 2012.

  1. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    Liverpool have made a remarkable bid to swap Andy Carroll with Carlos Tevez and move on their club-record £35m signing not even a year after signing him from Newcastle United.

    The Anfield club contacted City on Thursday to ask how much they want for Tevez and whether they would be willing to contemplate a straight exchange with Carroll. Brian Marwood, the City football administrator, rebuffed the idea immediately, even though Carroll is a player Roberto Mancini has admitted admiring when he was at Newcastle.

    The move demonstrates how Liverpool are now openly looking at offloading Carroll despite the insistence behind the scenes at Anfield that he can still play a prominent part and Kenny Dalglish's praise for the player after the 2-1 FA Cup defeat of Manchester United.

    Carroll has scored only six goals in 35 appearances since becoming the eighth most expensive footballer in history and has not even been able to establish himself as a regular starter this season.

    His problems adapting on Merseyside have also left Liverpool willing to take a £10m hit on the player, with Tevez valued at £25m, though that revelation is hardly surprising considering his difficulties at Anfield, added to the sense that he has not always been fully focused.

    Fabio Capello, the England manager, has already expressed misgivings about the lifestyle of a player who has managed only two league goals this season in 20 appearances.

    Those remarks went down badly at Anfield, with Dalglish defending Carroll, but the questions will probably not go away until he becomes a regular scorer. Carroll's longest run of starts this season is three games and Marwood's decision was made on the basis that he could no longer improve their team even though Mancini has a shortage of front players at a time when Tevez's strike is in its 11th week and Mario Balotelli is now serving a four-match suspension.

    Tevez is planning to return to Manchester next week now it has become apparent that Milan are not able to meet City's asking price and, unless anything changes before Tuesday's transfer deadline, his adviser, Kia Joorabchian, says the Argentinian wants to re-establish himself in the team.

    Whether that is possible remains to be seen, with Mancini not prepared to entertain the idea unless there is an apology from Tevez for walking out on the club and the string of other offences that have already led to him being found guilty of gross misconduct and losing almost £10m in wages, fines and lost bonuses since the start of the season.

    Tevez is still a formidable striker and finished as the league's joint-top scorer last season, but he will be returning to England with a severely damaged reputation and Liverpool's attempt to take him along the M62 will surprise many people given his propensity for causing dressing-room problems and an apparent dislike of living in England.

    There is also the fact that, approaching his 28th birthday, he would not have fitted into Liverpool's usual policy of buying players at a young age who will keep a resale value over the course of their contract. Liverpool, however, were willing to make an exception and City would have been glad to arrange a deal after unsuccessful talks not just with Milan but also Juventus, Internazionale and Paris St-Germain. They remain open to offers for the Argentinian but will not change their mind about Carroll.


    Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/28/liverpool-andy-carroll-carlos-tevez

    Your thoughts?
     
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  2. The artist JerryChristmas

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    I trust you as a source Chris and very interesting reading...I just wouldn't trust the Guardian to source me a packet of cigs nevermind a true transfer story <ok>
     
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  3. Chris.

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    Ha ha, fair enough! To be fair, I don't believe it. We've got 3 days until the transfer window ends, **** all has happened (Apart from Cisse to Newcastle) and I think the Guardian needed a story to liven it all up.

    Thought it was worth posting to see what everyone's views are on it.

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  4. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    I'm shocked at the Guardian. It seems even they talk absolute tosh too.

    Carroll to City? lol yeah i'm sure they'd like him! In fact they'd exchange Tevez.

    The fact they state City wouldn't take Carroll, means this is purely drivel relating to Carroll's situation, putting pressure on us and Carroll.

    Worst piece i've read all year. Total, made up on the pot, drivel.

    On a side note i'd swap them any day! Why don't we swap Downing for Ageuro?
     
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  6. Bindiana

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    There were rumours today that tevez was going on loan to west ham
     
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  7. Sharpe*

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    Or Spearing for Silva?

    We could give them Gerrard and we could have Barry!
     
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  8. alexb

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    It sounds like utter bollocks. But, judging by our recent *ahem* transfer dealings; i wouldn't be surprised if we made an offer to them for a swap. Of course i would welcome the deal if it were to happen. Alas, it will not.
     
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  10. Lucaaas

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    After being against this move Oct/Nov time when people were suggesting it, I've now changed my mind on it. I'd love it to happen (Tevez to LFC) even if he ****s off home after 18 months or so. If he fired us into the CL then we'd be in a better position to attract a top striker to replace him.
     
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  11. Sir_Red

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    Tevez would walk into our starting 11. Him and Suarez up front would be terrifying and I would see us scoring plenty of goals
     
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  12. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    We'd have to be stupid for this to be true. If Teves is unhappy living in Manchester, and cant have a his children with him there, I doubt moving to Liverpool would make a difference.

    Plus I dont think him and Suarez would compliment each other.

    Thats is why that article surely can not be true.
     
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  13. Lucaaas

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    Tevez can't have his children with him because he had an affair and traded his wife in for a newer model. The only place he could see his children regularly is if he moved back to Argentina, which won't happen because the clubs there don't have enough money to leech on for Kia Joorabachian (sp?)
     
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  14. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    Never knew those details.

    But Tevez is clearly depressed. We dont want that.
     
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  15. Sir_Red

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    And Carroll is all smiles....
     
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  16. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

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    More made up stories from the press, and they try to teach us lessons on morality!!!!!!!!!
     
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  17. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    I do not like Tevez he has attitude problem..Can cause problems for Liverpool as well.<ok>
     
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  18. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    Originally Posted by Lucaaas
    Tevez can't have his children with him because he had an affair and traded his wife in for a newer model. The only place he could see his children regularly is if he moved back to Argentina, which won't happen because the clubs there don't have enough money to leech on for Kia Joorabachian (sp?)

    His wife and kids were living with him in Alderley Edge
    That wasn't the problem
     
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  19. suarezlfc

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    If a story has no quotes, that generally means it's bollocks.

    "Brian Marwood, the City football administrator, rebuffed the idea immediately..."

    Did he? What exactly did he say then?
     
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  20. suarezlfc

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    Tbh, I'm surprised this story didn't come out on Friday, in perfect time to unsettle him.
     
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