Fickle Fans !!!

thank god that football players contracts dont work like your job then .. he is far from the worst right back in the league .. he is just another player getting picked on by fickle newcastle fans because its someone to blame .. the whole team was **** second half, tactics were **** and it probably wont happen again for a while.. it was a one off and its not one players fault.

 

Right you say that other diabolic displays occurred against Chelsea, Norwich, West Brom and Liverpool, this is becoming more common and each of these games Simpson has been dreadful.

 

so you can pick 4 games he hasnt played well in all season? .. he was played as CB against Norwich so you cant really expect anything better .. 3 bad games does not justify calling for a players head

 

Nobody seems to have picked up on this comment. Sorry but you've had a bad 7 years?! 8 years ago we were playing in Europe with a great team and a great manager, and challenging for honours. In the last 8 years we have seen several managers come in and pick apart the great team we had, culminating in our gradual fall down the table and relegation, plus we've had our stadium, one of the historical landmarks of the city, renamed after some ****ty sports shop.

Don't try telling Newcastle fans about having a bad few years.

 

Must admit I haven't been on here since the match because I kinda knew what some of the reaction would be. It was a bad 45mins thats all. If you jump off the deepend over that then you don't really understand football very well. Krul was not at his best but to be honest, I'd struggle to name a player in B&W who played well 2nd half. The first one was never a pen in a million years. Duff is cheating little ****er and Santon shouldn't have given him the opportunity. Truth be told Santon had a bad day at the office. But the likes of him and Krul are very young. You have to accept these games are part of their development as footballers. To me both those two mentioned will end up world class talents so I wouldn't worry about a bad 45min or 90mins. Sometimes you just have a freaky collapse, Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool have all had them this year, so why should we be immune? We do need a quicker centre half to compliment what we have, just to deal with A Johnson type players but such was our shape and raggedness, its hard to tell whether we just made him look good! Credit to Fulham too who took their chances, we didn't. We should have been 3 up by half time, Colo will be having nightmares about his missed chance. I'm probably alone in thinking this but I reckon the 2nd pen, the ball flicked Kruls glove which would mean no pen on that either. They got a few slices of luck along the way and I think it took the wind out of our sails.

Nevermind, bad day at the office and move on. Pardew got bested a little 2nd half tactically by Jol, this can happen. The only thing Pards must do is remove Shola. But I think he may be thinking longer term again. it appears his intention is to use Benni in midfield so I think he wants to get games into him there before the big guns come back from the ACON.

 

Oh and as for the slating of Simpson, give over. He has had a cracking season and has been one of Newcastles best player sover the last couple of months. He's had poor games no doubt but overall he has been terrific.

 

Excellent post.

 

This result was coming, we were shocking against qpr and if the quality was better then we would have been nailed.
this result will not spoil a great season so far however we were in this position as we did not strenghten our small squad

the summer - we lacked back up at the back = sell jose = replace with Santon = nothing done
last year b4 carroll left = we needed an additional forward to cover carroll = sell carroll = replace carroll with baa = still no cover
= acon in jan = SURPRISE Baa, tiote leave for a month = we look like idiots.

Pardew has done a great job so far but games like Fulham and Norwich away to let in 9 goals proves we are paper thin, on a good day we can match most teams but when injuries kick in we really struggle.

I am over the moon about Cisse signing so in theory all we need is a defender and then its been a great transfer window for us BUT who will be sold
Baa,Tiote,colo ???? Who is relaxed about deadline day??

Things are still roisey but it pisses me off when we get a couple of injuries and we have to make do with the likes of perch etc

 

Who says anybody is getting sold this window? I don't think it's even possible to sell the African players with them being at the ACON and Colo will almost definitely be staying.

Perch isn't that bad a player, he can fill in well at CM, he's just not cut out to be a defender. Playing someone in the wrong position or a position they don't feel comfortable in doesn't make them a bad player.

Although i agree that this result shouldn't spoil the season.

 

HBA is class pure and simple however he is prone to over do it and give the ball away cheaply like Ronaldo did when he joined Man utd, he will learn when to take the simple pass or to take the player on.
Plus you have to remember that the injury he had is worth taking time to get back to play week in week out

 

Nobody needs to say players are leaving Ashley is always keen to make money, hope i am wrong but look at the past few yrs.

 

Santons been impressive so far

 

There's not many i'd want back though

 

What about the past few years? When we went down we sold all the dead weight, or rather the players who didn't want to rectify their mistakes, that's not Ashley's fault, that's necessary. We still kept a good enough squad to come straight back up with ease.

Last year we sold Carroll, Nolan, Barton and Enrique.

Carroll: 35 million is not a bad deal for someone who's looking woeful for Liverpool. With him as the entire focus of our team we were doing well but were never really going to properly progress. For 35 million he had to be sold, it was too good an opportunity to miss. Also, offers of 25 million, 30 million and 35 million had been turned down before we accepted!

Nolan: All he would have offered us this season would've been team spirit. He was losing his legs and wanted an unreasonable contract considering the fact he was a liability as a CM. Yes he scored goals, but only because of the aforementioned system with Carroll giving him knock downs. His form at West Ham proves it was a good deal.

Barton: Had to leave. He was, and still is, a self opinionated loud mouth. Yes he played well for one season but that doesn't make him some sort of irreplaceable figure head. We now have Cabaye and Guthrie as much better ball playing centre mids and without the attitude.

Enrique: Quite clearly didn't want to be here. Wasn't sold for money making reasons.

None of these sales have been for Ashley to get money. We've now got a better first team than last season and for the most part play better football. We're also in 6th, joint on points with Arsenal. I'd say that's good work all around to be honest.

 

This

 

The transfers have all worked out i agree but hindsight is a wonderful thing, i bet if Baa or tiote was to go we would not be saying that.
ps Santon is a good signing i was making the point he was a straight replacent for jose not an additional defender we craved.
lets hope u are right because if u are we are in a great place

 

You've kind of missed the point I was trying to make. I'm trying to say that we are only willingly selling players that we don't have need for/can replace easily. If Ba or Tiote are sold and not replaced then i will most likely be proven wrong but l get the feeling that it won't happen untill the summer at earliest

 

One thing that was obvious against QPR and Fulham is that Williamson is not up to the job. He lost everything I'm the air against Bothroyd las weekend and was ruined by Johnson yesterday. The other major problem with him is that Pardew has us playing good football - mostly - passing out from the back, Mike Williamson is a very poor footballer, he's not comfortable on the ball.

Teams will now know the way to get success against us is to play 4-4-2 and target Williamson, if he plays, we will lose to Brighton as Machail-Smith will expose him all day.

That lad at Watford we've been linked with could be a good shout, Pardew is obviously trying to address the lack of pace at the back, which worries me.

 

So Williamson was at Watford did well there, isn't good enough, so replace him with someone currently at Watford who hasn't made as much of an impression.

 

Its the pace that we really need though. I'm not expecting that well get anyone amazing in January, but someone with a bit of speed and footballing ability would improve our back four. It might just be the injury with Williamson, he seemed much better last season, but as it stands, he isn't up to the job.

Also the analogy doesn't necessarily work, for example at FC Twente Tiote couldn't get a game yet Brian Ruiz was touted as one of their finest players. Which one would you rather have.