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Fleetwood blocking darlo from loaning players supposedly

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  1. Rafa's Championship Party

    Rafa's Championship Party Well-Known Member

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    Which goes back to the point of teams struggling after going out of the league.
     
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  2. G4rdToonArmy

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    Has Tash found a job yet?
     
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  3. TomTom94

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    We may not approve of "franchise football", but you have to admit the draft system the MLS and NFL use for transfers is useful when it comes to balancing teams out. Could it be worth looking at in the FL?
     
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  4. u408379965

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    Fleetwood are in a title race, they're hardly going to let Darlo play the likes of Ferguson, Ranger and Lovenkrands, it could cost them a championship. Also it doesn't effect Darlington's status as a football club (that I know of) as they can still sign players who are unattached.
     
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  5. TomTom94

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    They're in a title race that is unaffected by Darlington. Also, I doubt we're looking at Fergie and Ranger here, I think it's more along the lines of Alnwick and the other novices.
     
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  6. Gutierrez's Right Boot

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    The likes of Hooper, Adjei, Streete, Donaldson. They have the Mackem lad Pritchard GK on loan
     
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  7. u408379965

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    They play each other tomorrow. If Darlo win it'll have a pretty big affect on Fleetwood's season.
     
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  8. TomTom94

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    Thankfully it's irrelevant now, the Fleetwood story's been proven false. Link is in the other thread.
     
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  9. Why aye Cabaye

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    These are the types of players we should loan to the conference to get some experience.

    Tavernier, Ferguson etc are far too good to go their, even if it was a good will gesture. It'd hinder their development.
     
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  10. Marvo

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    They're still in that position because of the actions of the club though. Don't get me wrong, I feel sorry for the fans, but I don't think other teams should be bending the rules for them. If Darlington were to get these loan players, and avoid relegation, that's hardly fair now is it? Bending the rules to bail out clubs damages the integrity of the league.
     
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    In what way is it unfair? Loaning players in and avoiding relegation? What is so bad about that? Where is the rule saying only teams who are going to win the league can loan players in. We wouldn't give them Cabaye and Krul you know. Probably wouldn't have even given them reserves, just people like JJ Hooper.
     
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  12. Marvo

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    It's unfair because they're trying to break league rules to get in those loan players. It's unfair on other teams because Darlington may end up getting points from games featuring the 'illegally' loaned players, which could have an impact on the final league positions of other teams. Take Fleetwood for example - They're challenging for the title. If Darlington end up beating or drawing with them it could prevent Fleetwood from winning the league.
     
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  13. I'm With Colo

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    It shouldn't come as a surprise that clubs falling out of the league run into financial ruin. This is a product of the 'promotion system', and as much as I like the excitement it creates to see clubs progress at the top levels; it is inevitable that clubs cannot afford the costs of running a professional club when you've fallen into a semi-professional league. This is the reason so few sports use the system, because financial stability requires status stability, and it's incredibly hard for a club to recover when opportunity for profits are pulled out from under you and you're left with the existing costs.

    That rant aside, Darlington is a bit of an exception because of their white elephant of a stadium - and demonstrates what happens when an influx of investment can't be sustained - I can't imagine what'll happen to City if the Sheik ever decides to up sticks and leave
     
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  14. my name is jonas

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    Iit's not really the case of trying to better a league position, but to try and keep the club in existence. And that's why it's seemed as more unsportsmanship behaviour from fleetwood. It's not kicking a team whilst they're down, it's stamping them out.

    Being from Darlington, I would be truly saddened if they went out of business. When I was younger I went to every single Darlo home game and even though I don't currently live in the area it's something I wanted to share with my children for when I move back to the North East.

    As Newcastle fans, people should appreciate the fact that the club is only struggling so much due to a total bell end of an owner. We've had a few run ins with our current one, and our previous proved financially inept. But the support of the fans will always carry NUFC. Darlo on the other hand have a 20k stadium and in the 'good old days' a turnout of 2k. Now it's much less. Darlington doesn't have the support or financial backing to support this kind of stadium as it's only a medium sized town.

    Reynolds ****ed the club over and ruined everything, but all they are looking for now is to stay in business and keep the club afloat. I've always felt a bit sorry for clubs this has happened to in the past but never felt really affected until it's a club I'm affiliated with. I have brilliant memories from Darlington games when I was younger, I learned new swear words every fortnight to take back into school!

    Darlington Football Club, without it I doubt I'd be as much of a football fan as I am. As a young kid in Feethams (Tin Shed of course) I learned what it is to be a football fan, and the more local clubs that go out of business then the more likely it will be for the game to fade out entirely - at least live support anyway.


    And before anyone asks, I'm an NUFC fan as my dad is a Geordie and we got to as many Newcastle game as we could but financially we couldn't afford it. So Darlo games where my only choice. And I just hope in the future people will have that choice to attend live matches too...
     
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  15. Hugh Briss

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    AVB wants Darlington to die? <grr>
     
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  16. TomTom94

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    Darlington currently don't have enough players to field a full side nor, through no fault of their own, the money to sign free agents.
    An emergency loan for some of our youngsters would harm no-one.

    I'd also like to mention at this point that there's another side in the BSP, Kettering, also teetering on the edge at the moment. Not entirely sure what happened there but all the players have essentially left, and their caretaker manager refuses to take charge of their next game until the players are paid.
    Simple fact of the matter is more of the PL money needs to filter down the pyramid.
     
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    Tevez/West Ham???
     
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  18. P.T.N

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    What a bunch of Fascists Fleetwood are!

    Would like to see their reaction if the situation was the other way round. We'd no doubt see a Redknappesque complaint
     
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  19. u408379965

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    And the only way to do that is by loaning Premier League players? I'm sure there are plenty of unattached players who'd go and do a job for them. Darlo need money, not results to keep them in business.
     
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  20. Colly NUFC

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    Are people really being this dense. Darlo don't need loanees to survive, they have their own youth players to call up. Fleetwood saying no doesn't harm their survival, unless Darlo fans will only turn up for Premiership loanees, in which case they deserve where they are.

    Even if it was true, which it isn't, Fleetwoods concern is the league. Darlos survival isn't connected to todays result.
     
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