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Nani injury

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  1. LuisNani17

    LuisNani17 New Member

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    Looks very severe, its said to be a deep gash but reports are coming in that he has fractured his tibia and will be out for 8 weeks. This is very bad news for Man Utd. Man Utd are in a mini crisis with our manager getting ever more stubborn and the team relying on Nani for everything. Rooney looking like a dire player. Berbatov not interested anymore. Scholes legs gone. Carrick living the high life and grateful he is at this club knowing he has as much creativity as a donkey on a uni cycle drawing a painting. Fletcher has been dire all season.

    Can we win the league with Nani in it? maybe but only if Arsenal stutter
    Can we win without Nani? no. we would be lucky to get 2nd without Nani.
     
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  2. robin_van_ fiberglass

    robin_van_ fiberglass Active Member

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    Terrible tackle by Carragher, in fairness though Rafael's one was even more dangerous but didn't cause the same amount of harm. Although I never like to see talented players kicked out of the game by less talented ones Nani is so annoying I wasn't that sympathetic to him
     
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  3. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Can't agree that Rafael's tackle was more dangerous. Rafael had both legs on the ground with all the force of the challenge going into the turf. You could see from the massive divots he took. Carragher's on the other hand was very similar to the one by Shawcross on Ramsey - studs up, all the force of the tackle going into the standing leg and above the shin pad. Definitely more dangerous.

    As for your last comment about him being so annoying...I'll remember than for the next time Spitty Fabregas gets an injury...:emoticon-0149-no:
     
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  4. LuisNani17

    LuisNani17 New Member

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    season is dead
     
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  5. Kamran - KingKoscielny

    Kamran - KingKoscielny Active Member

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    Rafael's challenge was nowhere near as bad as Carra's.

    And I don't think Nani's injury is too serious. If it was something major like a fracture or something, it would've been confirmed by now.
     
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  6. robin_van_ fiberglass

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    I just found it ironic that after the initial challenge where he went down and did his 'this hurts so much that i am going to do 20 rolls on the pitch to demonstrate it' he actually got up again to go to the ref and show his injury, as though he was saying 'look I am actually hurt this time'. Then he fell to the floor again!

    I mean come on. I find it annoying when Eboue makes a big deal out of challenges but Nani is such a cry baby that I can't help not feeling sorry for him.
     
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  7. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Except it you watch the replay he didn't roll at all. He went straight to ground clutching his leg, got up to show the ref the gash, then realised it actually hurt a lot and he shouldn't really walk on it. Not the first player to carry on in the heat of the moment and only later realise how serious the injury is.
     
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  8. PINKIE

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    You need to watch Rafael's challenge again, arguably it was actually WORSE than Carragher's, he got lucky because Skyrtl hurdled the challenge, whereas Nani got caught.

    Carragher's was bad, but it was one footed, albeit studs up. He was going for the ball and was late and high. Rafael's however was born from anger from the previous challenge on him. He made no attempt to play the ball and lunged in two footed, one with studs in the air trying to cause damage.

    Watch the video here at 1:23 http://soccertvlive.blogspot.com/2011/03/video-luis-suarez-grabbed-rafael-da.html

    Rafael was lucky not to see red for that challenge.

    To compare the Carra challenge with Shawcross is laughable. I can understand that you're upset about the Carra challenge but Shawcross was intent only on going straight through Ramsey at full force, the injury was testament to the ferocity of the challenge. Carra was late and high and caused a nasty cut. The two are incomparable.
     
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  9. bpl234

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    Nani is a great player to watch nad a little arrogant...but the worse one for me for bigging himself up is Bendtner!! Big time charlie...
     
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  10. Steevee

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    nani has fractured his labia the big girl was crying, thought football was a mans game. Go home nani and eat olives
     
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  11. Swarbs

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    Watch the slow mo replay of the Rafael challenge and you will clearly see the divots both sets of studs made in the turf. Both sets of studs are down at the point he passes under Lucas (not Skyrtel) and all his force goes into the pitch. The fact that Lucas wasn't even touched by the challenge, despite only having an instant to hurdle it, shows that the chance of it injuring him was minimal.

    The main differences between the Shawcross tackle and the Carragher tackle is that Ramsey's leg was at an awkward angle with studs caught in the turf. Both Carragher and Shawcross made their tackles with no regard for the safety of the player. The only reason Nani escapes with a less severe injury is that his leg was straight, and thus could be knocked backwards by the force of the tackle, and not angled downwards as happened to Ramsey.

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    With the image at 37 seconds on here:

    http://soccer-portal.org/video/1347-ryan-shawcross-tackle-on-aaron-ramsey.html

    Both players go in with full force with all their bodyweight at almost exactly the same point on the leg. But Ramsey's ankle is twisted and his shin is at a downward angle, which overstresses the bone and causes the break.
     
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  12. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    None of them are defendable tackles, they are all worthy of a red. Rafael too. The two divots on the pitch are not made by two separate boots as one was in the air, studs up trying to take out Lucas - watch the video again.
     
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  13. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    Rafael's wasn't in the same league as Carragher's. His feet go nowhere near as high. As for Nani, don't get me wrong, I love the guy - along with Berbatov he's the most skilfull player at United - but I think there's an element of "the boy who cried wolf" about his situation yesterday. He doesn't do himself any favours unfortunately with his theatrical reactions to innocuous fouls. But he's a class act, and nobody deserves to be hacked down like that. If Carragher played in red, white and black instead of all red, I'm sure there would be more of an outcry against his vicious behaviour. He definitely went out there to hurt Nani in my opinion.
     
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  14. BringBackfootie

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    Hi Folks, non gloating LFC fan here.

    Looking at some of the posts above, complete rubbish a lot of it.

    A lot of you would have said yes Joe Cole should have went for his tackle earlier this season, Rafaels was an absolute shocker, are you all blind,

    2 feet off the ground, both feet stunds showing, yes he eventually lands as Lucas goes over him, what if Lucas didn't jump? That was a career ender if ever I saw one, Carra's was a red by todays standards, but lets not get away from the fact that Nani couldn't wait to get off that pitch, he certainly has not got a broken leg, Carra's leg was not straight, he cut the guy, a red you couldn't argue with but the second tackle by Rafael could have been very serious is Lucal didn't jump, it was far worse than what Gerard got sent off for, just because Lucas avoided it doesn't make it any less shocking.

    All in all 2 red cards couldn't be argued with. What I would worry about as a United fan would be Nani's lack of grit and heart. He got up walked over to the ref and fell over crying, I have been on the end of fouls as a lot of you have on a saturday or sunday morning, do we behave like that? No I would say not.
     
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  15. BringBackfootie

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    Do you all realisticially think Giggs Flectcher Rooney Smalling O'Shea Evra Park Brown would have went off like that? After heading to Kuyt I think he just wanted out of there and had the perfect excuse. He was having a stinker up to htat and didn't fancy it at all.
     
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  16. Girvan Loyal 1690

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    really bad tackle but if nani had better shin pads on I'm sure he would of escaped with no injury
     
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  17. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    I think virtually any player would go off with a gash like this:
    http://stretfordenders.net/picture-nanis-gashed-leg-after-carraghers-horrendous-tackle/
    Apart from Les Sealey maybe.
     
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  18. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Hate to break it to you but...

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    His leg is ramrod straight sending all his force straight into Nani's leg. Not all that different to:

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    and we all know how that one ended up.

    Rafael's challenge was equally deserving of a red card, but if you watch the slow mo replay he raises his stud as Lucas jumps. He's obviously trying to catch him, and it could have been a dangerous tackle had Lucas not jumped, but he didn't go all out to drive his studs into a standing leg as Carragher has tried to do to Nani.
     
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  19. Psycho2k

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    First of all, Rafael's challenge was reckless and should of been a red, but then again the ref should of also noticed Maxi putting his studs down his thigh only a few seconds earlier.

    as for Carragher's challenge, he was nowhere near the ball and was far too high to get the ball even if he was near it, that was a malicious challenge that did exactly what was intended, to take out Nani. Some people on here are comparing it to Shawcross's challenge, while Ramsey was extremely unlucky in that challenge, Shawcross did not go in studs first like some people are saying, he was swinging his leg at the challenge (studs facing away) and if I remember right it was actually his shin that connects with Ramsey, his foot was not even high, Ramsey just nicked the ball away a split second before the challenge and had his foot planted at an awkward angle.
     
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  20. BringBackfootie

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    I'll give you his tackling leg is straighter than I first thought. But to compair to Keane is just ridiculous, look at Keane's standing leg, braced and providing power, look at carra, oh he hasn't got a standing leg and oh yes, that is momentum carrying him into Nani, the same Nani who done him with a deft touch, carra slow Nani fast, Keane, went to do his man, stellar differences.
    Like I said a red for both tackles but a scraped shin is no comparison to hwat Roy Keane did in the actual event or the outcome.

    nani lost some skin, this does not prevent you from playing football, it stings but a few minutes on the touchline would have sorted it and he would have played on, it is a superficial wound not deep scarring, he is a professional athlete that gets kicked for a living ffs

    If Rafael is ever on the end of a tackle he made on Sunday he may think twice before doing it again, carra did make a bad, not horrendous as is put about, a bad tackle, Rafael could have broken both of Lucas's legs with that lunge

    By the law of the game, two footed lunge off the ground, straight red, not debatable, whereas carra's red is debatable, you are judging it by the outcome of Nani's leg and not what happened in the game, Carra's yellow saved Rafael from a red it is that simple


    To compair a rake to Keane's assault is really clutching at straws, carra catches th side of nani's leg and rakes it as nani's leg is turned slightly where as Keano dead on inpact intended to cause maximum damage, his stance says it all, a low studs out karate kick

    If you watch the carra one again, you can see Nani's leg is not there when he starts the tackle, he got done but he was careless and I doubt he was trying to do what he did
     
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