Well said Tots, it's a scandal that officials are continually ruling Ade's goals offside. It's also annoying that some Spurs fans are starting to get on Ade's back. He'd be our top scorer and we'd probably be top of the league if linos could do their job properly.
I really like the MoTD pundits! I enjoy for the most part listening to the punditry, especially of the Spurs game. Of course, it is very annoying when they say "Spurs are in the title race" only to follow it a week later with "Spurs are definitely not in the title race". What does annoy me about pundits is that they seem to be the only people that actually look at Spurs as title challenges, whereas the vast majority of Spurs fans don't expect Spurs to challenge this year. Anyway, Sky punditry > BBC punditry >>>> ITV punditry ~ Ray Wilkins.
For me, they (MoTD pundits) spout the same crap week-in week-out. Always get an analysis of the defence and how they're not in a straight line and end it with a title challenge or relegation battle quote as if we don't already know etc. Bores me to death. The Sky Soccer Saturday lads are a good laugh in fairness but if I'm at the game I don't get to watch their antics. ITV just never know what they're talking about. Either getting name's or facts wrong it's laughable. Ray Wilkins... I won't even start on that c*nt lol.
On a very cynical level, that is true. But with pundits, they talk about the area that they are specialists in. Hence why Hansen and Dixon concentrate on defences and Shearer on how good the attack is. I personally enjoy it. Although, if it was on tape, I would only watch the Spurs analysis and spend little time on the other matches. Paul Merson is woeful as a pundit. He is very comical and I suspect that's one reason why Sky like him. I do like Scott Minto and Le Tissier. Charlie Nicholas (Nichols?) is one I like a lot too. Dean Windass....I can't understand. A really good pundit though is Gary Neville. Very surprised at that too and he seems to be very unbiased. Should not have read this whilst holding a hot cup of coffee! Made me laugh.
Merson may not be insightful, but at least he's entertaining. I can think of a few pundits that are neither.
Yeah Merson's definitely entertaining can't deny that. And agreed on Gary Neville, a lot better than some of the other time wasters.
I don't think I've ever heard Wilkins actively be a WUM; I just feel that he is an awful, awful pundit and says either ridiculous things or things so obvious, they aren't even worth saying. We should burn an effigy of Roman Abramovich for being the root behind Ray Wilkins working as a pundit for Sky. (Unless he was actively working for them as a pundit prior to his departure from the Bridge.)
Not only have I never heard Ray Wilkins say a positive thing about Spurs, but it's almost as though he goes out of his way to have a dig. It's the same with Stan Collymore.
Yeh but Collymore works for T**kSport. They aren't know for their excellent punditry. I try to zone out when Wilkins is the pundit. Thankfully he has that voice where it is possible to zone out. Hopefully he'll be doing the Arsenal game. Again, I don't remember him ever of being a WUM. Might be because I don't pay much attention to him. Who knows?
Ray Wilkins' wummery is very subtle, which is probably why it gets to me so much. If he was more obvious with it, I wouldn't get so wound up, because I could simply dismiss him as a numpty. I can't remember word-for-word examples of his wummery, but this is the kind of thing that I'm on about:- Commentator: "Spurs really looking to press home their advantage now by scoring a goal." Ray Wilkins: "They look good going forward, but they look lame in the final third. They don't look like scoring, I'm afraid." Commentator: "You've got to say, though, Ray, that Modric is looking like a class above any other player on the pitch." Ray Wilkins: "I wonder when he's going to leave for a bigger club?" Commentator: "Sorry to interrupt, Ray... Oh, yes! What a superb goal! VDV takes a wonderfully slipped-through ball from Bale and slots it past the flailing keeper. 1-0 to Spurs, and you've got to say, it's been coming, Ray." Ray Wilkins: "But can they hold onto the lead, Clive? I'm not so sure." Etc. Every comment he makes carries its own little dig.
Come on now, those are actually useful! I never rated him as a player and I rate him less as a pundit. His nickname in his playing days was "the crab" as he hardly ever made a pass that wasn't sideways.
Funny you mention this. I just decided Steve McManaman on ESPN3 is one of my least favorite commentators ever. It's not so much that what he says is not helpful, (though it isn't, he's not as bad as some) it's that I can't ever remember hearing an announcer who sounded so bored. "Really disappointing" was his favorite phrase, and sums up listening to him nicely. Good player, no doubt, but he needs to find something else to do for a living.
Did you read this a couple of weeks back? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/8987138/Ray-Wilkins-revels-in-his-pantomime-role.html Jonathan Liew is now my favourite journalist.
