OT: Who do you vote for?

Hang on, I agree that Labour were a shambles, but are you seriously saying that Public Sector jobs are more "fake" than the Private Sector??

 

Really? People are entitled to their opinion but the conservatives are no better than the labour party. David Cameron at the moment has done **** all to help this country get back on it's feet. We were a disgrace in the summer when the country and the rest of the world looked at the people in the capital destroy peoples livelyhood.

While this happened he was on holiday (Not his fault at the timing of the events) but he had to sit there and make a decision as to whether to come home and help sort it out. That is an outrage, if you lead this country and you see it being destroyed YOU HELP. This is only one of many things that he has done wrong.

The labour party wasn't the be all and end all but at least they gave a dam about their country.

 

David "I don't care about the underlying causes of the riots" Cameron . Serious levels of stupidity from him there.

 

That comment isn't fair in this case. The Channel Islands and IOM have their own governments and own fiscal structures. The tax rates and structures were in place well before tax exiles and financial business' decided to move in an take advantage of them. The extra people who arrived with it have pushed up the cost of living to the point were virtually none of the young locals can ever hope to be able to buy a property. Added to the fact that the cost of living is on a par with the City of London but wages are lower, it means that working class Channel Islanders are considerably worse off than their equivalents in the UK.

The UK is doing the usual trick of deflecting issues relating to its own incompetence by pointing fingers overseas.

What the UK is trying to do is bully a smaller economy into making changes that will utterly destroy its own economy purely because they can't think of measures to stop their own rich from moving away or taking advantage of international finance loopholes that can actually be exploited in many places on the planet.

 

Kept unemployment down due to this ;-)

 

I voted Bailhache in the last election...

 

I believe that The Conservatives are WORSE than the Labour Party. And that is really saying something!

As for the bottom quote. I'm fairly sure that a few back-benchers aside, they really don't. Labour have effectively become the Tories, they associated themselves with the same people, they embraced the city, and they ****ed it up. Labour are a joke now.

 

Well look at this way Milibard is a mini Cameron.

 

Nothing like him....

 

Maybe I'm just reading it wrong, but is it THAT different to the treatment of people from the North East, whose jobs were taken away from them by mass capitalization and the death of modern industry, forcing them to either find jobs in the public sector or move south in search of work. As far as I can see it, its a government ****ing over a set of people who don't matter to them, in order to please the ones that do!

 

aka urequired positions were created to manipulate the unemployement figures. In the run up to the election the Labour party deliberately distorted the lines between the two for their own political gain as well. People working in the public sector are effectively paid for by taxes, rather thaN GENERATING TAX THEMSELFS. lABOUR MERELY, AS ALWAYS TOOK A PROBLEM AND EXASCERBATED IT. (oops caps, not undoing though.

What you are doing there is merely challenging my terminology which never helps furth a debate, unless you didn't get what I meant, which is entirely possible

Probably just going to say agree to disagree mate. No offence, it's me. Not in the mood so I just get agitated lol. Shouldn't have posted but I'm like a fly and a light when I see something political

 

Strawbs, that's tabloid nonsense mate, don't be fooled. Miliband doesn't have two cells to rub together. Totally different league.

Night all anyway. Gonna give this Skyrim another bash

 

When Margaret Thatcher was interviewed and asked what was her greatest achievement, she replied "New Labour".
Sorry if anyone has mentioned it already, too many replies to wade through.

 

Those suffragettes have a lot to answer for.

 

I disagree with the UK government following policies that are so detremental to any region JWAG but there is a difference.

Guernsey, Jersey and IOM have their own governments, raise their own taxes, don't take money from the UK and basically have their own economies. The UK government is trying to bully us into making changes to our own economies which will screw us completely when they basically don't have the right. They have no more right to tell us what to do than they do the Swiss, Maltese or any other country.

If the UK doesn't want tax dodgers to come and live here then they need to figure out a way of stopping them. It isn't our responsibility to change our laws or economic policies to put them off.

Anyway as Stoney said, we could do as they ask have our entire economy collapse and then the tax exiles would just move to one of the other low tax jurisdictions and carry on. It wouldn't solve the UK's problem. Which turns the argument back on itself. IMO the UK is willing to **** us over to try and solve their problem, at the same time not caring what it will do to us.

 

I vote for labour because I'm not a total ****er.

 

Aye I see what you're saying.

I think you just took his comment that he pledges money to the conservatives but will probably top because they're going to **** over his region a little too much at face value - clearly a lot more to it than that.

 

I couldn't help but laugh at this!

 

Actually I understand what he means. Traditionally it is the Labour party that has had a beef with the CI and IOM and has periodically made noises about forcing us to change our tax rates. The Tories have traditionally left us alone, which is why Tory support offshore is historically huge compared to Labour. But the current Tories have done a u-turn and are now the problem. Hence his £5 is wasted.

 

I vote Green Party as they are a proper socialist party that actually get some votes and representation in Parliament. The LibDems, Tories and Labour are all centre right who believe in a society built upon the ideals of Monetarism, which I don't agree with. Greens get a lot of stick for all of the environment mumbo jumbo but their last manifesto was superb.